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Re: Bring back Flame Wars

Postby Timminz on Mon Apr 06, 2009 7:55 am

Artimis wrote: I'm still waiting for an official announcement on the fate of the Flame Wars forum

You might want to check the Announcements forum.
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Re: Bring back Flame Wars

Postby clapper011 on Mon Apr 06, 2009 8:28 am

official post of flame wars removal here:
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=82967&view=unread#unread
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Re: Bring back Flame Wars

Postby owenshooter on Mon Apr 06, 2009 8:33 am

ahem...
Hyasri wrote:Unlike the beautiful colo(u)r scheme we launched on April 1st as an April Fools joke, the removal of Flame Wars was no joke. We have given this a lot of thought and consideration and agree that Flame Wars no longer fits into the future vision for the site. It was becoming more clear that the flames were spilling out of that forum and taking up more moderation time to sort out.

We were also concerned about the unfriendly atmosphere this was generating for new people. I realise this will be an unpopular move with some of you, but I can assure you a lot of thought has gone into this.

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Bring Back Flame Wars

Postby Tupence on Sat Jul 18, 2009 3:04 pm

Concise description:
  • Bring Back Flame Wars

Specifics:
  • Purely for the flaming of a certain couple of relatively new members who incessantly post about:
  • Being Insulted
  • Potentially Leaving
  • Crazy Voting Ideas
  • Other intensely annoying garbage that noone cares about or wants to see

This will improve the following aspects of the site:
  • Hopefully these people will actually leave like they keep saying they will

P.S. I'm sure the suggestion of bringing back Flame Wars has been made several times, but has it ever been more relevant?
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Re: Bring Back Flame Wars

Postby Serbia on Sat Jul 18, 2009 3:26 pm

I'm not surprised at the suggestion, just at the one making the suggestion.
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Re: Bring Back Flame Wars

Postby 40kguy on Sat Jul 18, 2009 3:56 pm

there not going to bring back flame wars they have seen this before
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Re: Bring Back Flame Wars

Postby Artimis on Sun Jul 19, 2009 1:59 am

Simply put the admins decided to ditch Flame Wars and they were going to do it no matter what, the official reason was to take CC in a new, more family friendly direction, or so we are told by this bloke called Hyasri(No, I don't really remember him either. :-s) Apparently Hyasri stepped in to the role of community manager to replace Twill after he retired from active duty.

Personally I just think the official reason was an excuse/cover to get rid of Flame Wars, I'd hedge my bets that the real reason for getting rid of Flame Wars was because of an outside stimulus. Much like the Classic Art or Classic Shapes substitution for the Classic map was improvised as a response to the Hasbro lawsuit.

I'd like to see Flame Wars come back, that way I can go back to lambasting my opponents in the designated forum as well as in the game. Particularly the one's who deserve an extra large helping of verbal lashing.
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Re: Bring Back Flame Wars

Postby Martin Ronne on Sun Jul 19, 2009 2:16 am

Artimis wrote:Simply put the admins decided to ditch Flame Wars and they were going to do it no matter what, the official reason was to take CC in a new, more family friendly direction, or so we are told by this bloke called Hyasri(No, I don't really remember him either. :-s) Apparently Hyasri stepped in to the role of community manager to replace Twill after he retired from active duty.

Personally I just think the official reason was an excuse/cover to get rid of Flame Wars, I'd hedge my bets that the real reason for getting rid of Flame Wars was because of an outside stimulus. Much like the Classic Art or Classic Shapes substitution for the Classic map was improvised as a response to the Hasbro lawsuit.

I'd like to see Flame Wars come back, that way I can go back to lambasting my opponents in the designated forum as well as in the game. Particularly the one's who deserve an extra large helping of verbal lashing.



I can't imagine what sort of outside stimulus could have had any effect on Flame Wars. But yes, I wish they would bring it back.
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Re: Bring Back Flame Wars

Postby 40kguy on Mon Jul 20, 2009 7:53 am

i would like to see it come back but i dont think that it is
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Flamewars needs to be reinstated

Postby xelabale on Wed Jul 22, 2009 2:24 pm

I have noticed an increase in flaming over the last few weeks across CC. It is prevalent in game chat, in Turtle soup and even in General Discussion. There is only one logical conclusion to this - since flamewars was removed the lesser beings who frequented there have come to OUR fora to pollute and desecrate them.

We've tried banning principle members of this group in the hope that this would quieten them down. However, if anything it seems to have stirred up a hornets nest. I see no signs of this dissipating, and if anything, foresee it getting worse.

Following the argument presented above we can reach only one conclusion - the removal of FW was a terrible mistake. The only way to rectify this situation is to reinstate it in the hopes of removing those individuals from OUR fora, allowing us to continue OUR discussions in peace.

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Re: Bring back Flame Wars

Postby AndyDufresne on Wed Jul 22, 2009 2:27 pm

Merged with Previous Suggestion to keep similar content together.


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Re: Flamewars needs to be reinstated

Postby Woodruff on Wed Jul 22, 2009 3:09 pm

xelabale wrote:I have noticed an increase in flaming over the last few weeks across CC. It is prevalent in game chat, in Turtle soup and even in General Discussion. There is only one logical conclusion to this - since flamewars was removed the lesser beings who frequented there have come to OUR fora to pollute and desecrate them.


Due to the recency of the increase in flaming, it seems to me that the logical conclusion as to the cause is the banning of Dancing Mustard, rather than the removal of FlameWars. Otherwise, the increase wouldn't have been so recent.
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Re: Bring back Flame Wars

Postby Artimis on Thu Jul 23, 2009 2:35 am

AndyDufresne wrote:Merged with Previous Suggestion to keep similar content together.


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Great, so where are the posts from the other thread then? :-s
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Re: Bring back Flame Wars

Postby Artimis on Tue Aug 11, 2009 5:02 pm

Subject: spam spam and more spam

AndyDufresne wrote:Collected 'Bring Back Flame Wars' Suggestions for those interested.


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As per the above invitation.

Bringing back Flame Wars will improve the following:
  • Allow the quick surgical removal of threads and/or posts that descend into Flaming/Trolling from the other forums where they have no place.
  • Allow our more hot tempered players to let off steam without fear of falling under the ban hammer(a lot healthier for Lacks business than perma-banning paying customers)
  • Give us the option to take a lot of the tell-tale-tit telling that is currently going on in C&A and just let the protagonists have it out with each other away from the much more civil forums.

There's more, but that will do for now.

EDIT: I hasten to add that the poll for thread Subject: spam spam and more spam indicates that popular public opinion is in favour of reinstating Flame Wars.
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Re: Bring back Flame Wars

Postby Woodruff on Tue Aug 11, 2009 5:30 pm

Artimis wrote:
AndyDufresne wrote:Collected 'Bring Back Flame Wars' Suggestions for those interested.
--Andy


As per the above invitation.
Bringing back Flame Wars will improve the following:
  • Allow the quick surgical removal of threads and/or posts that descend into Flaming/Trolling from the other forums where they have no place.
  • Allow our more hot tempered players to let off steam without fear of falling under the ban hammer(a lot healthier for Lacks business than perma-banning paying customers)
  • Give us the option to take a lot of the tell-tale-tit telling that is currently going on in C&A and just let the protagonists have it out with each other away from the much more civil forums.
There's more, but that will do for now.


I think placing some sort of a tag under the topic name in the forum a moved thread formerly occupied is an acceptable way of keeping folks from accidentally being drawn into FlameWars through a "moved topic" (maybe make the notice colored, so it stands out). That should make it easy enough to see. This would really eliminate the largest complaint with FlameWars that I've heard, which was that folks didn't realize they were even IN FlameWars at times.
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