BLANK OUT ABBUSIVE LANGUAGE

[AndyDufresne]

Don't make me quote myself from before.


--Andy

[Bolbs]

Considering I started this thread to try and reduce the bad language on this , I think it is disgraceful that it has resorted to this.

Without wishing to repeat myself, we ALL have different ideas on what we think should and should not be allowed on this site. This is probably because we have all been brought up differently in different cultures.

We shouldn’t be telling anyone else what is right for his or her child, only the parent can decide that. Me, I would not want any of my children exposed to reading anything that is x-rated on the Internet. Yes, children know the swear words, it is impossible to protect them from that. What you should be able to do though is protect them from it being used in an aggressive manner towards them.

Films have different ratings so not to expose children to certain language. This site would clearly be an 18, but you would have no way of knowing this until your child had already been sworn at.

As it stands, all those ppl who are quite happy to start cursing, as they have on this thread, are being allowed to do so. However, NO consideration is being taken for any individuals who are easily offended such swearing or any children that go on this site.

All I want is this to be addressed. A simple option in the profile to turn off bad language would solve the problem.

Please respect that.

[Dancing Mustard]

Considering I started this thread to try and reduce the bad language on this , I think it is disgraceful that it has resorted to this.

No it's fucking shame that some wankers on this site can't control their bloody language. Bunch of cunts the lot of them...

Without wishing to repeat myself, we ALL have different ideas on what we think should and should not be allowed on this site. This is probably because we have all been brought up differently in different cultures.

I think this is actually the point which you're missing... why should we scrape and bow to your different ideas? I don't feel like being censored so that my language appears in a fashion that you would better appreciate, and neither does anybody else.

Me, I would not want any of my children exposed to reading anything that is x-rated on the Internet.

Then perhaps you shouldn't be letting them on CC...

Bad language is permitted here, if you don't want to be exposed to it then you can either ignore players and stay away from the forums, or not play altogether. Come on, take a bit of responsibility for your own actions, stop trying to force everybody else to mollycoddle you or to make programs to wrap your children in cotton-wool.

Films have different ratings so not to expose children to certain language. This site would clearly be an 18, but you would have no way of knowing this until your child had already been sworn at.

God forbid you could just read the site's guidelines before you played a game eh? That'd have done the trick, it really does give you all the warning you (fucking) need.

As it stands, all those ppl who are quite happy to start cursing, as they have on this thread, are being allowed to do so. However, NO consideration is being taken for any individuals who are easily offended such swearing or any children that go on this site.

Perhaps that's because those boring people make up a tiny minority of the population here, and because the majority is quite wedded to the idea of free uncensored speech. For the most part, we're all adults here, and we don't feel like being censored to conform to the expectations of a fragile language-sensitive minority, or in the fictitious interests of children whose parents are too naive to think they don't already know foul language.

All I want is this to be addressed. A simple option in the profile to turn off bad language would solve the problem.

Well you see... you already have that. The button is in the top right hand corner of your screen. It's red, and it has an X shape on it. Press it once, and all the bad language can be gone for good.

In short: If you want to be free from CC's bad language, then don't play CC.

[Bolbs]

Thank you for completely ignoring my wishes of keeping this thread clean. That shows a total lack of respect.

You have just highlighted the reason why IT IS needed. You clearly do not give a **** about any1 but yourself, and choose to carry on insulting and offending any1 in your path. If boring is being polite and respectful, then yes I am and would rather be that. I truly hope that I am not in the minority.

You also failed to grasp the simple concept that what I am asking would not make any difference to you or anyone else who chooses to use vulgar language to express themselves. By making it an option you can simply turn it on or off, you would have the choice. Understand? The only difference it would make is to ppl like me, who is offended by such language like you have just used, but that doesn't seem to matter to you.

I cannot be bothered to point out the other "simple" flaws in you argument.

I am therefore asking you politely, please do not post on this thread if you are unable to control your language. If you feel the urge, go to flame wars with all your friends.

[Kemmler]

I agree there are some very nasty people round here including that guy and something needs to be done.

[Dancing Mustard]

Thank you for completely ignoring my wishes of keeping this thread clean. That shows a total lack of respect.

You have tried to censor my motherfucking language in this thread, you have ignored my wishes of keeping free speech alive in these forums. That shows a total lack of respect.

You also failed to grasp the simple concept that what I am asking would not make any difference to you or anyone else who chooses to use vulgar language to express themselves.

No you have failed to grasp the fucking simple concept that what I am asking is not to have my language censored as it appears on other motherfucker's screens.

If bad language is going to break your glass-jaw the moment you look at it (or your childrens), then stick to sites with 'family-friendly' options (you can tell which sites these are by reading their posting rules before you begin). Don't come to a site that others enjoy and then start prattling on about fictional 'duties' that they have to protect you and your family from the folk-devil of bad language. Bad language like the word cunt for example. Or cumsack.

By making it an option you can simply turn it on or off, you would have the choice. Understand? The only difference it would make is to ppl like me, who is offended by such language like you have just used, but that doesn't seem to matter to you.

Nope, makes a difference to me because I know that I can't make you cry by saying 'twat' every now and then. Please try harder to comprehend other's posts before talking rubbish next time.

I cannot be bothered to point out the other "simple" flaws in you argument.

So far you've failed to point out any, I'd say it's pretty early for you to be getting tired...

I am therefore asking you politely, please do not post on this thread if you are unable to control your language. If you feel the urge, go to flame wars with all your friends.

I am hereby asking you rudely, please do not post on this thread if you are unable to deal with the language permitted by this site in its official guidelines. If you feel the urge to cry about it, go to some under 7's forum or a strict religious forum and harp on about it there with all of your fellow hand-wringers.

[Bolbs]

I guess I am never going to get through to you so I will no longer try. You are a lost cause. Good luck in prison.

At least one good thing has come of me starting this thread. I have found some1 who is completely disrespectful, foul mouthed and clearly has no moral standings. The reason I am so glad is that I'm can add this moron to my ignore list so I will never have the misfortune listening to any of his vulgar language again I suggest that others follow suit.

If any1 else who read this uses similar language then pls can you add me to your ignore list.

Seeing as I will no longer know what profanities will follow this, all ask is for you to try not to embarrass yourself too much.

Just as a reminder, this is a game and therefore it is supposed to be fun.

[billy07]

don't worry about dancing mustard, he's just an accountant that suffers from small-man syndrome. You can read all that pent-up fustration in his posts. Profanities are his therapy, he'd be out raping little kids if it wasn't for flame wars.

I think we should therefore thank cc for allowing people to swear, whilst protecting kids from worse demons at the same time.

[Nickbaldwin]

I guess I am never going to get through to you so I will no longer try. You are a lost cause. Good luck in prison.

At least one good thing has come of me starting this thread. I have found some1 who is completely disrespectful, foul mouthed and clearly has no moral standings. The reason I am so glad is that I'm can add this moron to my ignore list so I will never have the misfortune listening to any of his vulgar language again I suggest that others follow suit.

If any1 else who read this uses similar language then pls can you add me to your ignore list.

Seeing as I will no longer know what profanities will follow this, all ask is for you to try not to embarrass yourself too much.

Just as a reminder, this is a game and therefore it is supposed to be fun.

Last time I checked saying f*ck cunt twat bitch is not a jailable offense. Sorry mate. And I will be adding you to mine for being a ridiculous twat and trying to impress your standards on the rest of the forums. Again, sorry mate. Before I even got to the next paragraph I was already way ahead, but not because I think I'm a naughty naughty man for using such evil words, but because you are a ridiculous twat. Sorry mate. You will know what profanities follow it because ignore list doesn't filter the forums.
Sorry mate. This is actually a forum related to a game, and there is meant to be discussion. No discussion if you insist you're right all the time now is there. Sorry mate.

[Twill]

Chaps, watch yourselves.

Cursing is not prohibited on the site, but I'm not going to let you abuse anyone. You're bordering on trolling Bolbs and if you don't stop sharpish I'll be happy to troll you with official warnings.

Let me make myself clear - swearing and cursing aren't going to be forcibly censored on this site any time soon. I have a few ideas in my head for voluntary user-based censoring, but that still has some design issues and then has to be coded.

That being said, abusing users has never been ok. If any user is abused in any place at any time, PM me and I'll be happy to have words with the users.

Now, DM, Nick, firth - quit variously trying to jack, spam and troll this topic, CC is not your personal playground to act how you wish, respect is a big thing on my list, even if you think it's fun to spit on people. Norse, be very very careful mate, I can't warn you many more times, keep pushing it and eventually you're going to trip, and you know where you know you have a lot of vacation time saved up for your next holiday...

[The1exile]

Hate to threadjack (but I'll follow Twill's example) - could you define "abuse" in the context it's used in that previous post, so I can begin to comprehend the scenarios in which uber-twill is going to protect over 20,000 users from taking offence at something or other?

[Bolbs]

I am not trying to impress any1, and obviously swearing isn't a jailable offence. That was a small attempt at humour. The suggestion being that with his attitude he would no doubt end up there.

I didn't know that I would still be able to read his "thoughts and ideas" in the forums even if he is on my ignore list. I have not put any1 on there b4. O well.

I have said b4 that every1 has different thoughts about what they think is suitable reading material.

With my idea anyone who thinks that it is fine to swear can still do so. The only thing that would change is that anyone who does not want to read such material wouldn't have to.

You have to admit that his comments would offend most people.

[The1exile]

The only thing that would change is that anyone who does not want to read such material wouldn't have to.

"Stay out of the road, if you want to grow old."
-Pink Floyd, Animals.

[Twill]

Hate to threadjack (but I'll follow Twill's example) - could you define "abuse" in the context it's used in that previous post, so I can begin to comprehend the scenarios in which uber-twill is going to protect over 20,000 users from taking offence at something or other?

In the interests of not threadjacking (lets stick to debating the merits of allowing voluntary censorship of language displayed on each user's personal screen), if you're actually interested exile, PM me and I'd be happy to explain

[Dancing Mustard]

I did stick to debating the proposal at hand (granted I did it whilst also lampooning the OP), but all I got in return was Bolbs saying "U R Teh no sense an I aym winnar. J00 is 4 ignowre lyst and Gaol.", and Billy07 making a completely undisguised attempt at a flame.

Now I appreciate that Bolbs isn't being given an easy time here (mostly because his arguments are ridiculous fallacies), and granted we could probably tone down our lambasting of him a bit here. But I can't see why his petty aspersions aren't being picked up on, and I certainly can't see why Billy07 is avoiding your ire. I mean, unless it's all well and good for me to call him a closet paedophile in the name of advancing this debate?

Come on Twill, I know we're the obvious villains of the hour here (and I accept the warning that I personally have been given) but perhaps you might consider being a little more even-handed here because we are by no means the only people crossing the line.

[hecter]

Bumpzor:
http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=40991

[SkyCaptain]

I have a few ideas in my head for voluntary user-based censoring, but that still has some design issues and then has to be coded.

I'm too lazy to read more than the first two pages of this, but it seems to me that it is incredibly unfair to expect the mods to censor all language. However, I think that the easiest solution to this is for someone to code a free player mod (like greasemonkey) that blocks all the offensive language. In fact, there's probably one available as a firefox add-on. This would allow everyone who wants to cuss to do so, but because they are not restricted in the words they say, they wouldn't resort to convinient ways to say things, which could never be blocked by the mods, since you can always change a word into something else and still make sure people know what it is. Since the cusser would have no incentive to circumvent the filter, they wouldn't, and (most) profanity would be blocked. And if you saw a new word you didn't like, you could add it to be filtered.

[SkyCaptain]

Ahh, i see hector has already found such an answer.

[SirSebstar]

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Without wishing to repeat myself, we ALL have different ideas on what we think should and should not be allowed on this site. This is probably because we have all been brought up differently in different cultures.
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Fine, then do not try to impose your ideas here, when its been anwsered, at least twice by gamestaff that what you requested will not be implemented. Not only that but your basic idea has several very serious flaws. So basicly, no, we will not comply.

We shouldn’t be telling anyone else what is right for his or her child, only the parent can decide that. Me, I would not want any of my children exposed to reading anything that is x-rated on the Internet. Yes, children know the swear words, it is impossible to protect them from that. What you should be able to do though is protect them from it being used in an aggressive manner towards them.

But you ARE able to protect your child, you can buy a commerciall availiable filter. It will do various tasks, e.g. blocking websites, but also blocking certain words, e.g. swearwords. Since you are the parant, its YOUR responsibility to install such basic software on YOU OWN computer. Do not ask, time after time, for a flawed feature that is deemed unneeded on this site

Films have different ratings so not to expose children to certain language. This site would clearly be an 18, but you would have no way of knowing this until your child had already been sworn at.

eh, there is such a thing as the guidelines and well, everything you as a parant should know about a website is published in the rules.
I do assume you read rules governing a site before you enter that site, do you not? You have, by entering the site, accepted these terms and agreed to comply by them. That basicly should have told you what is now stated over and over again. This site will protect against things like bigotry, but the occasional swearword is allowed. every word Swearing, trolling and capslocked is creating chaos, which will lead to a ban, but rules do occasionally get broken, and then punishment will follow. Kinda like in the real world. If you'd like to see no swearword at all, I suggest you try not to listen to your kids conversations at school.
basicly you knew, or should have known, what (kind of site) you were entering when you allowed your daughter to got on CC. If you did not, you are either ignorant, irrisponsible and lazy, or mentally retarded,(and should not be allowed to take care of anybody's child, not even your own) but in all other cases you could have known.

As it stands, all those ppl who are quite happy to start cursing, as they have on this thread, are being allowed to do so. However, NO consideration is being taken for any individuals who are easily offended such swearing or any children that go on this site.

True, some people like to rattle others people cages, and some take it quite a bit far, sometimes crossing the border of accepted behaviour. However, proliferating certain ideas usually serve to anger others. Some on this site take offence to anybody who advocates general censorship. You should have taken that into account after the first few posts as well.

All I want is this to be addressed. A simple option in the profile to turn off bad language would solve the problem.

You got a reply to that, it wont happen
management has addressed the situation but setting certain rules and guidelines. The activity you discribe is apparantly not crossing the borders they have made. Obviously they must be doing something right since these boards (and game) are still very attractive to lots of people. I do hope you can get over yourself and accept that CC is mostly about playing a game. Should you find a need within yourself to paruse the forums and see things you do not like, well then do not go there, and tell your daughter to do the same.
Please respect the message from the management and the majority of the current users