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Re: Atheists!?!

Postby Smokingdude420 on Sun Jul 13, 2008 1:02 am

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Smokingdude420 wrote:f*ck i wish we'd get some rain it was about 113 yesterday today was about 100 but shit i would love some damn rain lol


We've had nonstop storms here. It flooded outside my trailer(no It's not on a flood plain) and the water was about 4 inches from going inside. It's for sale, but if you want to look at it you better bring a boat.
But right here, storms have knocked the power out 3 times this week alone. And I'm not counting the little outages. It's getting old.
But, I do prefer going without power for 11 hours to 113 degree temps. :lol:

well since you put it that way i would prefer the heat then a flood the city next to us floods sometimes but not very long and its not that bad you just have to find another way around the road but i wouldn't know how to handle a flood i think i'll just chill by the pool and take the 113 heat :lol:
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Re: Atheists!?!

Postby Haggis_McMutton on Sun Jul 13, 2008 1:13 am

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Caleb the Cruel wrote:#4. All members of the JFC have respect for atheists, pagans, and members of any other religion. Yes, atheism is a religion. Yes, they do seem slightly bitter, however God can help them. ;)


Indeed, just as not playing tennis is a sport.
For some reason most people seem to be against the idea of a "not playing tennis" world cup though. Must be bigots or something.




Let me just copy the answer i gave you, Caleb, last time you were saying atheism = religion.
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Re: Atheists!?!

Postby Visaoni on Sun Jul 13, 2008 4:01 am

F1fth wrote:Popping in a little late to say that I give the thumbs up to "Godless Heathens."

As for banners, my favorite is probably the small black IPU. But we could also throw in a teapot there for good measure. :lol: It's kinda funny that there's a surprisingly large number of symbols to represent a lack of religious beliefs.


I actually tried a teapot earlier. It didn't look so good, at least not with the teapot I tried it with. But here, try to spot the teapot in this one.
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Re: Atheists!?!

Postby Visaoni on Sun Jul 13, 2008 4:11 am

Haggis_McMutton wrote:
Haggis_McMutton wrote:
Caleb the Cruel wrote:#4. All members of the JFC have respect for atheists, pagans, and members of any other religion. Yes, atheism is a religion. Yes, they do seem slightly bitter, however God can help them. ;)


Indeed, just as not playing tennis is a sport.
For some reason most people seem to be against the idea of a "not playing tennis" world cup though. Must be bigots or something.




Let me just copy the answer i gave you, Caleb, last time you were saying atheism = religion.

Exactly. A believe in science over faith is not a religion in any sense of the word.
From http://www.dictionary.com, religion - a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, esp. when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.

Caleb the Cruel wrote:But the truth is atheism is a religion, without many traditions and what not. It is a belief system... in nothing! I don't understand it, but whatever! Congrats on finally sending the e-ticket, Godless Heathens!

Here you say there are not many traditions and what not. As usual, you are off by one. There are none. No traditions, no moral codes (although it seems like many Atheist are Humanists as well, and I would argue have a much better moral code than just the Bible would teach), no nothing. The only thing in common is the lack of a believe in a supernatural creator or whatever you want to call it. It is not a religion in any sense of the word.
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Re: Atheists!?!

Postby Capt Killroy on Sun Jul 13, 2008 8:40 am

CHRISTIANS are not one sided we choose to believe
if we are wrong and it turns out that there is no god no harm is done .
but if we are right and we believe that we are
then all of you who had a chance and refused it
wind up in a place of pain and regret forever
then my question is why dont you believe?
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Re: Atheists!?!

Postby Curmudgeonx on Sun Jul 13, 2008 9:30 am

Capt Killroy wrote:CHRISTIANS are not one sided we choose to believe
if we are wrong and it turns out that there is no god no harm is done .
but if we are right and we believe that we are
then all of you who had a chance and refused it
wind up in a place of pain and regret forever
then my question is why dont you believe?


This is not the place for debate nutbag.
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Re: Atheists!?!

Postby Haggis_McMutton on Sun Jul 13, 2008 9:38 am

Capt Killroy wrote:CHRISTIANS are not one sided we choose to believe
if we are wrong and it turns out that there is no god no harm is done .
but if we are right and we believe that we are
then all of you who had a chance and refused it
wind up in a place of pain and regret forever
then my question is why dont you believe?


Do you people never get tired of Pascal`s Wager? seriously...
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Re: Atheists!?!

Postby Neoteny on Sun Jul 13, 2008 10:55 am

Haggis_McMutton wrote:
Capt Killroy wrote:CHRISTIANS are not one sided we choose to believe
if we are wrong and it turns out that there is no god no harm is done .
but if we are right and we believe that we are
then all of you who had a chance and refused it
wind up in a place of pain and regret forever
then my question is why dont you believe?


Do you people never get tired of Pascal`s Wager? seriously...


Short answer: of course not.
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Re: Atheists!?!

Postby Haggis_McMutton on Sun Jul 13, 2008 11:07 am

Visaoni wrote:
F1fth wrote:Popping in a little late to say that I give the thumbs up to "Godless Heathens."

As for banners, my favorite is probably the small black IPU. But we could also throw in a teapot there for good measure. :lol: It's kinda funny that there's a surprisingly large number of symbols to represent a lack of religious beliefs.


I actually tried a teapot earlier. It didn't look so good, at least not with the teapot I tried it with. But here, try to spot the teapot in this one.
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Almost forgot about this, yeah i see the teapot, it makes a nice "insider joke" :lol:
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Re: Atheists!?!

Postby Juan_Bottom on Sun Jul 13, 2008 1:05 pm

I love how the sig is professional looking. Like we are going to a business meeting with it. Yet our name is business casual. It's awesome. VISAONI, we're lucky to have you. So thank-you.

Is KAGETORA still working on a sig?
And if so, what happened to Flanders?
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Re: Atheists!?!

Postby kagetora on Sun Jul 13, 2008 1:12 pm

Haggis_McMutton wrote:
Visaoni wrote:
F1fth wrote:Popping in a little late to say that I give the thumbs up to "Godless Heathens."

As for banners, my favorite is probably the small black IPU. But we could also throw in a teapot there for good measure. :lol: It's kinda funny that there's a surprisingly large number of symbols to represent a lack of religious beliefs.


I actually tried a teapot earlier. It didn't look so good, at least not with the teapot I tried it with. But here, try to spot the teapot in this one.
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Almost forgot about this, yeah i see the teapot, it makes a nice "insider joke" :lol:


Of course we don't!

Juan_Bottom wrote:I love how the sig is professional looking. Like we are going to a business meeting with it. Yet our name is business casual. It's awesome. VISAONI, we're lucky to have you. So thank-you.

Is KAGETORA still working on a sig?
And if so, what happened to Flanders?


Well I did submit one, but I think I made it too small. I'll make a Flanders one to make Juan happy
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Re: Atheists!?!

Postby MaleAlphaThree on Sun Jul 13, 2008 1:45 pm

I'm still pretty new to CC, but I'm lucky to have first jumped onto the forums when I did.

I'm totally in on joining the clan!!
I will be your designated Strong Atheist.
You'll see what I mean in a moment.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism

I don't think Godless Heathens describes us well enough. It sounds too much like an insult Jesus Freaks would try to use, than a title to be proud of.

I'm thinking something along the lines of "The Uninfected Mind" sounds good.... considering that we don't have a severe case of mental virus (meme).

The signature looks good.... but it has too much text. I like the quotes but they take up too much space, we need something smaller like, "My Teapot Trumps Your God" or something else clever. I've got a fair amount of creativity in me.


And what are these sneaky Christians doing lurking around here? I'm going to start sounding like a troll, but would you mind getting the f*ck out? (I'm looking at you Caleb)
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Re: Atheists!?!

Postby kagetora on Sun Jul 13, 2008 1:54 pm

We already sent the ticket for Godless Heathens, I don't know if we can change it.

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Re: Atheists!?!

Postby Anarkistsdream on Sun Jul 13, 2008 1:57 pm

kagetora wrote:We already sent the ticket for Godless Heathens, I don't know if we can change it.

Here's my Flanders sig.

http://www.imagehosting.com/show.php/1826783_Flanderssig.jpg.html



You misspelled 'his' on the banner.
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Re: Atheists!?!

Postby kagetora on Sun Jul 13, 2008 2:03 pm

wow. I guess that's what happened when it continued to type off the screen.

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Re: Atheists!?!

Postby Visaoni on Sun Jul 13, 2008 2:26 pm

MaleAlphaThree wrote:I'm still pretty new to CC, but I'm lucky to have first jumped onto the forums when I did.

I'm totally in on joining the clan!!
I will be your designated Strong Atheist.
You'll see what I mean in a moment.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism

I don't think Godless Heathens describes us well enough. It sounds too much like an insult Jesus Freaks would try to use, than a title to be proud of.

I'm thinking something along the lines of "The Uninfected Mind" sounds good.... considering that we don't have a severe case of mental virus (meme).

The signature looks good.... but it has too much text. I like the quotes but they take up too much space, we need something smaller like, "My Teapot Trumps Your God" or something else clever. I've got a fair amount of creativity in me.


And what are these sneaky Christians doing lurking around here? I'm going to start sounding like a troll, but would you mind getting the f*ck out? (I'm looking at you Caleb)

But that is the beauty of the name. It is an insult - one we don't care about and have made our own. As far as sigs go, feel free to come up with your own. Personally I like the quotes. People will read them once, and every time they see the sig, they will probably remember. It won't be a lot of reading, they are easy enough to skip over if somebody wants to.

Juan_Bottom wrote:I love how the sig is professional looking. Like we are going to a business meeting with it. Yet our name is business casual. It's awesome. VISAONI, we're lucky to have you. So thank-you.

Is KAGETORA still working on a sig?
And if so, what happened to Flanders?

Thanks, it's more a reflection of my Photoshop skills than anything else though. ;) Although I think your right. I like the contrast.

kagetora wrote:wow. I guess that's what happened when it continued to type off the screen.

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:lol: Nice one.
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Re: Atheists!?!

Postby Smokingdude420 on Sun Jul 13, 2008 2:43 pm

Capt Killroy wrote:CHRISTIANS are not one sided we choose to believe
if we are wrong and it turns out that there is no god no harm is done .
but if we are right and we believe that we are
then all of you who had a chance and refused it
wind up in a place of pain and regret forever
then my question is why dont you believe?

let me stop you Capt no harm done? what are you talking about what do you think St Patricks day is about? its the day when the Christians came over to ireland to force Pagans to worship there God and whoever didn't they killed them the world was just fine the way it was until Christianity came into play they tricked the Norse into believeing into there God Christians were liars and killers and what do you think the xmas tree is for or the easter bunny? they have nothing to do with jesus they are Pagan holidays that the Christians stole to tell Pagans hey come over to our religion we celebrate the same holidays just a little different but i'll stop right there i could fill page after page of how Christians caused harm then and now but im not read your bible and your history before you make dumb statements
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Re: Atheists!?!

Postby Lexitonia5 on Sun Jul 13, 2008 2:47 pm

Now this is a very interesting idea. I am a non-believer, I wouldn't go as far as to call myself an Athiest as that presents an image of someone who opposes religion instead of just not believing in it.

But HOT DAMN, I am a Godless Heathen LOL

Now another term you can consider for a name would be Hamanist Brigaide. The term secular humanist is also used to describe non-believers.

I'm so glad you didn't try to go with something scientific like Darwin's Army of Evolutionists or something like that. In other forums I participate in, whenever this subject comes up, people immediately try to tie you to evolution thus creating a rift with the creationist theorizers. Not all believers dispute evolution so that sidelines them from the discussion.

This approach is much better. I like it!

AND to Smokingdude420, Bravo. So many people non-believers included, do not know the origins of the things you mentioned, like St. Patrick's day and the ways holidays are celebrated. The christmas for instance was used in the celebration of the Winter Solstice.

I hear the argument all the time from my Christian friends telling me I have nothing to lose by "believing." What they don't seem to understand is that I am simply incapable of believing in God. I simply don't have the capacity to believe in things that do not present themselves in a form I can use my five senses to understand. I do believe Jesus existed as a human being though. His footprint is undenyable. The other thing that drives me from the religious way of thinking is that if I am going to do good or bad in this world, I only have myself to thank or blame. That also is a difficult thing for religious folks to grasp. They assume if you don't believe in God, you live immorally. That simply is not the truth. We are just driven by a different set of guidelines - guidelines we ourselves create and live within.
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Re: Atheists!?!

Postby MeDeFe on Sun Jul 13, 2008 3:45 pm

"Humanist Brigade" isn't funny enough I think, the name should involve some sort of joke or irony.
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Re: Atheists!?!

Postby Juan_Bottom on Sun Jul 13, 2008 4:07 pm

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LEXINGTONIA5, You're in too right?

We sure have exploded. I went for a whole month with two(?) members. Now look at us! Yessah!

MaleAlphaThree wrote:"My Teapot Trumps Your God"

:lol:
MaleAlphaThree wrote:I've got a fair amount of creativity in me.

So far, I agree.
kagetora wrote:We already sent the ticket for Godless Heathens, I don't know if we can change it.

I'm pretty sure that we can, after all it is our clan. If they wouldn't let us we could just abandon this one and start anew. But! Godless Heathens has a lot of support. I doubt it'll be changed. But, there is no harm in discussing anything.

kagetora wrote:wow. I guess that's what happened when it continued to type off the screen.

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:lol: Nice!!!! Do you think that the associated joke would be offencive to anyone? Just asking everyone. It's pretty tame, but I don't wan't anyone to have a reason to hate the clan. Though if they do, screw 'em.
But Flander does make an excellent sig. Are we good on licensing??????????????? Or do we darken his glasses or something????

MaleAlphaThree wrote:And what are these sneaky Christians doing lurking around here? I'm going to start sounding like a troll, but would you mind getting the f*ck out? (I'm looking at you Caleb)

CALEB THE CRUEL JESUS FREAK is the leader(?) of the JESUS FREAKS. Plus he has been pretty supportive from the start. So long as he isn't trying to cause any trouble, he's fine by me. These other people though, I have a problem with. I don't like trolls.
But anyway, I don't speak for everyone, CALEB THE CRUEL JESUS FREAK....

Visaoni wrote:It is an insult - one we don't care about and have made our own.

Like Yankee Doodle? :lol:
Lexitonia5 wrote:AND to Smokingdude420, Bravo.

SMOKINGDUDE420 is pretty cool.
MeDeFe wrote:"Humanist Brigade" isn't funny enough I think, the name should involve some sort of joke or irony.

Agreed, some joke or irony.

Lexitonia5 wrote:'m so glad you didn't try to go with something scientific like Darwin's Army of Evolutionists or something like that. In other forums I participate in, whenever this subject comes up, people immediately try to tie you to evolution thus creating a rift with the creationist theorizers. Not all believers dispute evolution so that sidelines them from the discussion.

There are some wicked-smart people here who are members. And I think we all agree with you.
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Re: Atheists!?!

Postby HapSmo19 on Sun Jul 13, 2008 5:07 pm

Hey all,
Sorry for the zero input up until now but I've been pretty busy with outdoorsy stuff.
You guys are really working overtime on this. I'll try to get my creativity in gear and help when I can but it is......ehem....summer you know :P

Here's some quotes:

I do not believe in God because I do not believe in Mother Goose.-Clarence Darrow

The philosophy of Atheism represents a concept of life without any metaphysical Beyond or Divine Regulator. It is the concept of an actual, real world with its liberating, expanding and beautifying possibilities, as against an unreal world, which, with its spirits, oracles, and mean contentment has kept humanity in helpless degradation.-Emma Goldman

Atheism leaves a man to sense, to philosophy, to natural piety, to laws, to reputation; all of which may be guides to an outward moral virtue, even if religion vanished; but religious superstition dismounts all these and erects an absolute monarchy in the minds of men.-Francis Bacon

My atheism, like that of Spinoza, is true piety towards the universe and denies only gods fashioned by men in their own image to be servants of their human interests.-George Santayana

I have known many good people who did not believe in God. But I have never known a human being who was good who did not believe in people. [language slightly modified]-John Lovejoy Elliot

I don't spend much time thinking about whether God exists. I don't consider that a relevant question. It's unanswerable and irrelevant to my life, so I put it in the category of things I can't worry about.-Wendy Kaminer

My favorite:
Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blind-folded fear.-Thomas Jefferson
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Re: Atheists!?!

Postby Smokingdude420 on Sun Jul 13, 2008 5:09 pm

cant wait to see this clan get off the ground i've been sitting back and just waiting you just keep getting more and more members as the days pass to bad it didn't work like that for me :lol: but i think im going to start my forum up again i already have a name picked out for me :D and a sig very soon i hope
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Re: Atheists!?!

Postby Smokingdude420 on Sun Jul 13, 2008 5:15 pm

hey Juan I found a funny funny cartoon on youtube you should check it out you'll get a kick from it i know i did im still laughing when i saw it and you'll see why when you see it heres the link http://youtube.com/watch?v=zy0d1HbItOo
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Re: Atheists!?!

Postby MaleAlphaThree on Sun Jul 13, 2008 5:21 pm

This is a fake religion that pokes fun at all religions.... especially Scientology.

http://www.subgenius.com/


This is a site explaining the true origin of Christmas.

http://www.simpletoremember.com/vitals/Christmas_TheRealStory.htm
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Re: Atheists!?!

Postby Juan_Bottom on Sun Jul 13, 2008 9:32 pm

MaleAlphaThree wrote:http://www.subgenius.com/

Totally lost interest whn I saw this picture("V-Heart-4", by Heart Ignition) of a vagina heart on fire. Eww dude.

Smokingdude420 wrote:hey Juan I found a funny funny cartoon on youtube you should check it out you'll get a kick from it i know i did

Sorry brother, my dail-up doesn't allow me to watch YouTube videos. Without CC there would be ne reason for me to have the web. =(


Smokingdude420 wrote:but i think im going to start my forum up again i already have a name picked out for me and a sig very soon i hope

Everybody should be sure to support him. If SMOKINGDUDE gets his clan up, it will only help ours to grow. And of course, we'll be one step closer to religion wars! :lol:

Smokingdude420 wrote:you just keep getting more and more members as the days pass

I can't figure it out either. But It's awesome.
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