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Re: WWII EUROPE(page1-30 update 30jun)new option(idea stamp?)

Postby Qwert on Thu Jul 24, 2008 9:51 am

This is the small one right?? it will have names in larger version??

Anyway, The purple continent need to be done bigger.

No it will be same like small.
To be biger?Why?(north italy)

regarding the numbers:

Trouble is always to find back from the game log where "the hell" was "number 5 bombarded number 47"..

A small but essential improvement : add alphabet letters as a combination:
Per zone an alphabet letter and within the zone a collection of numbers..you won't go over number 9 for sure:

A1 attacks B2 etc..
Perhaps if each bonuszone name starts with a unique letter, you can take that letter..

Interesting idea,i will try to experiment with that.
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Re: WWII EUROPE(page1-30 update 30jun)new option(idea stamp?)

Postby Androidz on Thu Jul 24, 2008 9:54 am

]This is the small one right?? it will have names in larger version??

qwert wrote:Anyway, The purple continent need to be done bigger.
No it will be same like small.
To be biger?Why?(north italy)


Cause north italy is cramped as h*ll you would never get room for army number in there.
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Re: WWII EUROPE(page1-30 update 30jun)new option(idea stamp?)

Postby Qwert on Thu Jul 24, 2008 3:25 pm

Cause north italy is cramped as h*ll you would never get room for army number in there.

Its look that you not watch proces,i all ready have army circle and numbers can fit in.
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Re: WWII EUROPE(page1-30 update 30jun)new option(idea stamp?)

Postby Qwert on Thu Jul 24, 2008 3:26 pm

new experiment with odball sugestion;
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Re: WWII EUROPE(page1-30 update 30jun)new option(idea stamp?)

Postby Androidz on Thu Jul 24, 2008 3:47 pm

qwert wrote:new experiment with odball sugestion;
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I like the new odball=)

Altough i still its to cramped in italy, i whatched carefully all you need to do is make the terretories bigger removing a bit of the sothern italy part (flag) and stretch the terretories...and i cant say F5 part looks so good either. But again its looks much better with letters and numbers!=)
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Re: WWII EUROPE(page1-32 update 24jul)new option!!!(idea stamp?)

Postby AndyDufresne on Thu Jul 24, 2008 7:54 pm

I think Oddball and you are now onto something, regarding the letter and number combo.


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Re: WWII EUROPE(page1-32 update 24jul)new option!!!(idea stamp?)

Postby edbeard on Thu Jul 24, 2008 7:59 pm

I agree. Lets see the whole thing but it looks good to me.



I disagree with Oaktown's wait until larger maps are allowed because qwert could just revamp the map to something better looking once larger maps are allowed. It's not going to be the prettiest map but it looks like it'll function well and not be so cluttered that it'll be impossible to play so why not? (maybe someone has said this already)
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Re: WWII EUROPE(page1-32 update 24jul)new option!!!(idea stamp?)

Postby yeti_c on Fri Jul 25, 2008 4:46 am

AndyDufresne wrote:I think Oddball and you are now onto something, regarding the letter and number combo.


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Yeah - and in the large map - you could probably have the full names - with numbers in brackets...

i.e. Paris (5)

This could then turn into your "Small" map - when (if) larger maps are allowed.

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Re: WWII EUROPE(page1-32 update 24jul)new option!!!(idea stamp?)

Postby asl80 on Fri Jul 25, 2008 6:18 am

looks like the letter/number combo's a go'er, work's well (but, just quietely, i think there might be a problem with the west germany section, it reads E1, E2, etc... maybe W1, W2, would be a little more appropriate ... unless the jokes on me ... ooo, and S1 for siegfried)

Next steps? ... would be good to see the whole map lettered up, and then the 88 trap?
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Re: WWII EUROPE(page1-32 update 24jul)new option!!!(idea stamp?)

Postby Qwert on Fri Jul 25, 2008 9:46 am

by edbeard on Fri Jul 25, 2008 2:59 am

I agree. Lets see the whole thing but it looks good to me.



I disagree with Oaktown's wait until larger maps are allowed because qwert could just revamp the map to something better looking once larger maps are allowed. It's not going to be the prettiest map but it looks like it'll function well and not be so cluttered that it'll be impossible to play so why not? (maybe someone has said this already)

well i put only western front,because hes terittories is much smaller,and dont put all,because dont want to waste time,if these solution not aceptabile for Gimil.


by asl80 on Fri Jul 25, 2008 1:18 pm

looks like the letter/number combo's a go'er, work's well (but, just quietely, i think there might be a problem with the west germany section, it reads E1, E2, etc... maybe W1, W2, would be a little more appropriate ... unless the jokes on me ... ooo, and S1 for siegfried)

Next steps? ... would be good to see the whole map lettered up, and then the 88 trap?

I will put only letter who is good-S is not good look like number 5.Well i have 30 letters and i will experiment to put best options.
I all ready posted map with 88 and 888 numbers,see page 1(ofcourse these map is with names,but with combination letter-number,they fit even better)
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Re: WWII EUROPE(page1-32 update 24jul)new option!!!(idea stamp?)

Postby Qwert on Fri Jul 25, 2008 3:59 pm

well here image with all combo
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Re: WWII EUROPE(page1-33 update 25jul)new option!!!(idea stamp?)

Postby danfrank on Fri Jul 25, 2008 5:58 pm

The map looks great with the letter number idea.. I think to improve game play there needs to be a few starred territories in the center section of map...
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Re: WWII EUROPE(page1-33 update 25jul)new option!!!(idea stamp?)

Postby whitestazn88 on Sat Jul 26, 2008 12:58 am

i still don't understand why you have the closeup shot of the bombarding countries....
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Re: WWII EUROPE(page1-33 update 25jul)new option!!!(idea stamp?)

Postby Qwert on Sat Jul 26, 2008 8:25 am

by whitestazn88 on Sat Jul 26, 2008 7:58 am

i still don't understand why you have the closeup shot of the bombarding countries....


What you mean?
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Re: WWII EUROPE(page1-33 update 25jul)new option!!!(idea stamp?)

Postby asl80 on Sat Jul 26, 2008 10:14 am

everything looks preety good with the letter drop. (shame there wasn't the right letter for every continent, not much you can do there i suppose)

... suggestions;
vB5 - von Block Army
vR5 - von Rundstedt Army
vL5 - von Leeb Army (though this might clash with its poss. neighbor L5 - Leningrad army)
D5 - Siegfried Defence (to change to S5 - Stalingrad army) {though the T5 works not too bad there anyway}
E5 - East Prussia (and change East Germany to G5)
Balkan Front and Final Battles remain a mystery.

... though now i think the 1,2,3's for the bombardment/launch areas should be altered slightly to distinguish them from the rest ... maybe a yellow or orange glow around them, instead of white like the letter-numbers?

... have you worked out the bonuses for the central front yet?

... maybe the brown on the map and the morrone in the siegfried defence inset should be matched etc.?

... am i right in assuming that for each of the "stars" bonuses you get three armies and 1 for the berlin bonus?

Good luck finding an xmler for this one!, hehe.
(hope the drop down box can show i.e. "N5 - North Italy 5", or something like this)
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Re: WWII EUROPE(page1-33 update 25jul)new option!!!(idea stamp?)

Postby Qwert on Sat Jul 26, 2008 6:06 pm

by asl80 on Sat Jul 26, 2008 5:14 pm

everything looks preety good with the letter drop. (shame there wasn't the right letter for every continent, not much you can do there i suppose)

... suggestions;
vB5 - von Block Army
vR5 - von Rundstedt Army
vL5 - von Leeb Army (though this might clash with its poss. neighbor L5 - Leningrad army)
D5 - Siegfried Defence (to change to S5 - Stalingrad army) {though the T5 works not too bad there anyway}
E5 - East Prussia (and change East Germany to G5)
Balkan Front and Final Battles remain a mystery.

... though now i think the 1,2,3's for the bombardment/launch areas should be altered slightly to distinguish them from the rest ... maybe a yellow or orange glow around them, instead of white like the letter-numbers?

... have you worked out the bonuses for the central front yet?

... maybe the brown on the map and the morrone in the siegfried defence inset should be matched etc.?

... am i right in assuming that for each of the "stars" bonuses you get three armies and 1 for the berlin bonus?

Good luck finding an xmler for this one!, hehe.
(hope the drop down box can show i.e. "N5 - North Italy 5", or something like this)

Every thing is open for experiment,but first we must get Gimil opinion about combination number and letters instead names,if he dont satisfy with that,then all drop in water,because he bring decision for these map. If he like,then we hope that these map can move forward.
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Re: WWII EUROPE(page1-33 update 25jul)new option!!!(idea stamp?)

Postby lt_oddball on Wed Jul 30, 2008 7:41 am

Any particular reason why the Balkanfront zone got the letter A ? :)

(i know, i know)

and heeey, what is "wtf" doing on the map left of Italy :lol:
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Re: WWII EUROPE(page1-33 update 25jul)new option!!!(idea stamp?)

Postby asl80 on Wed Jul 30, 2008 8:11 am

lt_oddball wrote:and heeey, what is "wtf" doing on the map left of Italy :lol:


there's a ship Waiting To Fire hanging out there in the mediteranian oddball ... i assume this is the connection you are making here, what the f*ck is your problem? hehe

(hehe, i was hoping this got through without anyone else noticing - ahh, the small things in life)
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Re: WWII EUROPE(page1-33 update 25jul)new option!!!(idea stamp?)

Postby gimil on Wed Jul 30, 2008 9:13 am

I still dont really like it but its a much better compromise and it seems to have some convinced:

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Re: WWII EUROPE(page1-33 update 25jul)new option!!!(idea stamp?)

Postby Qwert on Wed Jul 30, 2008 9:42 am

by gimil on Wed Jul 30, 2008 4:13 pm

I still dont really like it but its a much better compromise and it seems to have some convinced:


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Re: WWII EUROPE(page1-33 update 25jul-Combo sugestions(idea)

Postby Qwert on Wed Jul 30, 2008 9:46 am

we going forward :D
So every body can sugest what combo is best for some countries,only one letter per country please.
Except for Western Task Force and Karelia,what i mean to be K1 and WTF(or some combinations WFT-TFW)
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Re: WWII EUROPE(page1-33 update 25jul-Combo sugestions(idea)

Postby The Viking on Wed Jul 30, 2008 10:03 am

Maybe you were planning to do this, but I think you should underline the representitive letter in the legend of each continent, for example Britain, in the legend, as to ensure everyone will know what continent is what.

The "Final Battles" continent will probably confuse some, why not rename it to Czechoslovakia?

And what's that black-and-white striped box in the Black Sea?

I think I would be better for North Italy than N, if the I can be made not to look like a 1.

Where did the East-Center-West connectors/bridges go?

I think it might be better to have the letter-number names in stead of the real names in the Sigfried Defense inset box.

Why is Leningrad Army represented by O and can't Rundstedt be an R?
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Re: WWII EUROPE(page1-33 update 25jul-Combo sugestions(idea)

Postby ZeakCytho on Wed Jul 30, 2008 10:05 am

If you ask me, you should give two letters to each continent - the first will be W, C, or E for the front that it's in, and the second will be a letter denoting what continent. I'd arrange these with North being the lowest and South the highest. For example, WA could be Britain, WB France, WC the Sigfried Defence, WD West Germany, WE Vichy France, and WF Northern Italy. Do the same for each front, except replace the Ws with Cs or Es. Then arrange the legend in the order of increasing letters, so things are easy to find.

Of course, you could do it many other ways. This is just a thought.
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Re: WWII EUROPE(page1-33 update 25jul-Combo sugestions(idea)

Postby yeti_c on Wed Jul 30, 2008 10:12 am

I Like the W C E idea - but I would prefer the start letters to be the start letters of the "continent".

i.e.

WE = Western Front England.
WF = Western Front France.
WG = Western Front Germany.
WI = Western Front Italy/
CG = Central Zone Germany.
CE = Central Zone East Prussia.
CP = Central Zone Poland.
ES = Eastern Front Stalingrad.

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PS - note change from "centre front" to something more fitting... i.e. as it is the Central Zone - it isn't actually a front. (A front being where 2 armies are fighting) other ideas could be "Interior", "Axis Zone", os something else.
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Re: WWII EUROPE(page1-33 update 25jul-Combo sugestions(idea)

Postby whitestazn88 on Wed Jul 30, 2008 10:44 am

when did you make the main page? congrats
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