SoC 1v1 Ladder Challenge (CLOSED)

[ElricTheGreat]

I shut down Mackadoo's attackdoo 3-0 (;-;)
I will challenge Elaterate sending games shortly

games Game 18838906
and
Game 18838910

t4 .... [g] & [/g] do not create a link to your game ... you need [Game] & [/Game]

[MGSteve]

Or just click the Game button above and insert the game number. Or type/paste the number, highlight it and then click the Game button. Or... well, you get the idea.

[celliottii]

I shut down Mackadoo's attackdoo 3-0 (;-;)
I will challenge Elaterate sending games shortly

games Game 18838906
and
Game 18838910

got the match and new challenge recorded for you...

[bobbythomson]

I've always tried to follow the credo of once the match for #1 is over and posted, then I immediately record the new challenge from whoever has DIBS and repost that DIBS is open. I try to send whoever had DIBS a note to let them know.

I also went back and looked at the Ladder posts regarding MGSteve's claim to have been missed for DIBS...and he is correct. Therefore, I have removed DIBS from bobbythomson and have given MGSteve DIBS.

I don't want to "relitigate" this - happy to have Steve get the chance against Erik.

But I would like clarification of Chuck's reasoning.

If in fact the DIBS are automatic in setting up the new match, the DIBS should be open as soon as the results of the last first place match are recorded. Which is how I originally read the rule - and Elric and Lord's match was posted before I claimed DIBS.

Steve's interpretation is different from mine and reasonable - he thought DIBS were not available until the challenger posted his games.

The question, for me at least, is : "when can one claim DIBS?" Does one have to wait until the PTB (Chuck) says DIBS is open? That is a clear rule. Or is DIBS available as soon as the results are posted of the first place match? Or does one have to wait until the challenger posts his games?

Good luck DUDE. You weren't just tripping! Good lawyers (if there is such a thing) are willing to admit when they were wrong. Just be careful if you end up the keeper of Elric the Great's soul - not sure what that means exactly, but it scared me off a bit. Heavy! That seemed a little "trippy" to me - I did not want to "be the man." Don't want anyone to have to stick it to this man.

[celliottii]

Not going to requote BT's post (just to save some space), but here's the best clarification I can think of...and I think since we've taken the "courtroom scenario" (jokingly, of course, because I'm friends with both guys), I would like to be referred to as Judge Chuckie-poo for this post.

Both MGSteve and bobbythomson presented solid evidence and gave good arguments. I went back and looked at the post that both guys and I posted about DIBS.

Rule #18 states:

18. The #2, #3, #4, #5, or #6 player may call “DIBS” to challenge the #1 player if the #1 player is currently being challenged by someone in the Top 6. If the player calling “DIBS” falls out of the Top 6, he/she also loses their “DIBS” to play the #1 player. There will only be one “DIBS” at a time.

I have also stated since its creation the Ladder works/lives in chronological order. I may not be online when a player announces a challenge, win, or calls DIBS, so I always go back to my last post and work from there.

To keep the DIBS part of the Ladder moving, I have always posted/changed a DIBS player to being the Challenger for #1 once the previous #1 match had been posted. Once this done, I usually post a statement that says, "DIBS is open". Again, this is to keep the DIBS part active.

When two players call DIBS at the same time (after my last post, but before my next post), I go back and look at it chronologically to see who was first.

What confused me with this scenario is that DIBS was called while the #1 match was still active (in other words, I don't remember seeing the winner posting the match results...Rule #14) by two players. A post was made saying that someone was ahead in their match, but the match was not over. More confusion came into play when a third player called DIBS. All this took place at the beginning of my work week when I'm on CC for maybe 15 minutes per day.

Bottom line is this...I feel MGSteve got missed when he asked for DIBS in the confusion. I made an executive decision to move DIBS from bobbythomson to MGSteve and that decision is final (Rule #25).

Judge Chuckie-poo has spoken...

[Lord Arioch]

Well im open to taking them both on and if i lose they can battle each other for spot 1.... i feel comfy though that Elrics soul will soon have company

[Lord Arioch]

Ive defended my throne vs the evilness of elaterate (fun games man) and are now open for challenges... or u can just let me sit here and do battle for 2nd place ..
crap now i jinxed it

[celliottii]

Ive defended my throne vs the evilness of elaterate (fun games man) and are now open for challenges... or u can just let me sit here and do battle for 2nd place ..
crap now i jinxed it

Match is recorded and MGSteve's DIBS has been changed to an actual challenge.

DIBS is open.

[celliottii]

I'm challenging bobbythomson...Challenge recorded on the Ladder

My Home game: Game 18843633
Tie-Breaker game: Game 18843635

password is: conquer

Walled and PM'd BT as well...

[bobbythomson]

Game 18843718

I am accepting Judge Chuckie Poo's challenge - here is my game.

I have waived my right to appeal from His Honor's decision.

And call DIBS now that Chuckie Poo has posted that DIBS are open.

I am on the way down in my match against Elric the Great, so I better take a shot at number one while I am still in range.

[Lord Arioch]

Game 18844284
My game vs steve still waiting on his

[Dukasaur]

I believe my victory puts me into 22nd place, which means I am clear to challenge chapcrap.

My game: Game 18816243
His game: Game 18816566
Neutral game: Game 18816244

Incidentally, this will be the fourth time chappie and I have met since the ladder began.

I'm sure that I must have won the other 3. This time will be no different!!

Oh the hubris of the fallen!

The chapcrap I have crushed!

By a score of 2-1, the series is mine.

[MGSteve]

For the brass ring, since he's too cheap for gold, I challenge Erik with Game 18844349 and Game 18844350.
And I thank his honor, Judge Chuckie poo for the wisdom of his decision and for charging me only 1 bottle of Patron for it.

[Lord Arioch]

The gold one u threw in a volcano at mt doom...

[celliottii]

Game 18843718

I am accepting Judge Chuckie Poo's challenge - here is my game.

I have waived my right to appeal from His Honor's decision.

And call DIBS now that Chuckie Poo has posted that DIBS are open.

I am on the way down in my match against Elric the Great, so I better take a shot at number one while I am still in range.

You've been DIBBED...

Oh the hubris of the fallen!

The chapcrap I have crushed!

By a score of 2-1, the series is mine.

Got your match recorded...

The Ladder is updated...

[Elaterate]

I defended my honor and won my match against T4 2-1

[Dukasaur]

I'm challenging grt next.

My game: Game 18845694
His game:
Neutral game: Game 18845697

[chapcrap]

The ladder says that MGSteve is challenging himself. While I would love to watch this, I think that xroads was challenging him if I have the info correct.

[Dukasaur]

The ladder says that MGSteve is challenging himself. While I would love to watch this, I think that xroads was challenging him if I have the info correct.

For MGSteve, walking and chewing gum is a challenge.

[chapcrap]

I have beaten xroads 2-1

Game 18832946
Game 18832947
Game 18833461

That should move me to number 9. There is only one person that I can currently challenge. So, I'll challenge benga.

EDIT: benga doesn't accept invites, so I cannot invite him to games. He will have to create all games and invite me.

My settings:

Poly (2)
No Spoils
Fog
No Trench
Chained

[Elaterate]

I'm not a person

[grt]

I'm challenging grt next.

My game: Game 18845694
His game:
Neutral game: Game 18845697

I accept but I think your game needs recreating - "Poly games CAN NOT be 4v4 poly or trench". You have a Poly Trench game..

[torres44cm]

I'd like to challenge TimWoodbury. PM sent

My game: Game 18846910
His game:
Third game: Game 18846911

[Dukasaur]

I'm challenging grt next.

My game: Game 18845694
His game:
Neutral game: Game 18845697

I accept but I think your game needs recreating - "Poly games CAN NOT be 4v4 poly or trench". You have a Poly Trench game..

I did not remember this rule. However, it doesn't seem to be enforced any more, if in fact it ever was.

Here's a poly trench game from the xroads-vs-chapcrap series: Game 18833461
Here's a poly trench game from my series vs chapcrap: Game 18816243
Here's a poly trench game from the the Elaterate vs. t4m series: Game 18838906
Here's a poly trench game from the games between xroads and MGSteve: Game 18829809
Here's a poly trench game from the xroads-vs-benga series: Game 18796864

That's just January. Lots more going further back. So I don't know if this rule is still in force.

Anyway, dropped the game and sent a new one: Game 18848266

So, to update, the new challenge is:
My game: Game 18848266
His game: Game 18848294
Neutral game: Game 18845697

[grt]

I'm challenging grt next.

My game: Game 18845694
His game:
Neutral game: Game 18845697

I accept but I think your game needs recreating - "Poly games CAN NOT be 4v4 poly or trench". You have a Poly Trench game..

I did not remember this rule. However, it doesn't seem to be enforced any more, if in fact it ever was.

Here's a poly trench game from the xroads-vs-chapcrap series: Game 18833461
Here's a poly trench game from my series vs chapcrap: Game 18816243
Here's a poly trench game from the the Elaterate vs. t4m series: Game 18838906
Here's a poly trench game from the games between xroads and MGSteve: Game 18829809
Here's a poly trench game from the xroads-vs-benga series: Game 18796864

That's just January. Lots more going further back. So I don't know if this rule is still in force.

Anyway, dropped the game and sent a new one: Game 18848266

So, to update, the new challenge is:
My game: Game 18848266
His game:
Neutral game: Game 18845697

My game: Game 18848294

Also, maybe the Trench/poly rule should be changed. I never saw the point of it.