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MOD PLEASE READ - falsely busted - can prove it

Posted:
Tue Sep 25, 2007 11:44 am
by zeppelin90
Okay so i knew this was gonna happen but oh freaking well... I paged wicked about this a long time ago so i hope she saved the message like she told me she would.
I just got my premium taken away along with Mark TPM getting his taken away and Samwisebrady getting his taken away... we paid 20 freaking bucks for this why the heck would we be multis or whatever?
We got "busted" with Ander Kirtra (my brother... again why would i need this account if im premium) and several other accounts... i explained to wicked that all of us that just got "busted" go to the same church together and are all in youth group together and so we all play on the church computer together which would ultimately mean we all show up on the same IP address... this really pisses me off that you guys still can't tell the difference especially when people have paid 20 dollars to be on your server... wicked please get in touch with me about this since you told me you would hold onto that PM from a long time ago and please someone do something about this. you can see that i have my own personal laptop and i am the only person who has ever logged in from this IP come on its not that hard to tell...
edit: oh and i guess i forgot about this...
the reason all three premium memberships were paid for by the same credit card is very simple..
I am 17... samwisebrady is 16 (15 when he got premium) and we don't have credit cards... so mark being our youth leader and the one we play with on here... we each gave him 20 bucks and he signed us up... again look into some actual evidence that shows we are individual people and it will be pretty simple to tell we are not multis

Posted:
Tue Sep 25, 2007 11:51 am
by Rocketry

Posted:
Tue Sep 25, 2007 11:53 am
by hwhrhett
http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=854310
lol, this game is funny.
yall shouldnt play singles games together against ppl that you dont know, it is very frowned upon....

Posted:
Tue Sep 25, 2007 11:54 am
by zeppelin90
oh and also i apologize i may not have paged wicked it might have been sully but a while ago i paged a mod this information to avoid this happening.
also as i just now paged sully... i'd be more than willing to give my password out to a moderator so they can temporarily view my inbox to see messages back and forth with my friends over the months and also they can see some of the team chat in the doubles games i've played with these friends so you can't see its not one person...

Posted:
Tue Sep 25, 2007 11:57 am
by zeppelin90
notice these two things about that game.... everyone except for Col. mustard in that game is from my youth group
von. hed or however u spell it is from my church and got an account and wanted to play a game with us... so we all joined except Col. mustard joined before my other friend oddball11 could get in.
but secondly notice Mustard never took his turn and there was no partiality taken... mark tpm and dorkface were killed b4 him...

Posted:
Tue Sep 25, 2007 11:57 am
by Rocketry
hwhrhett wrote:http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=854310
lol, this game is funny.
yall shouldnt play singles games together against ppl that you dont know, it is very frowned upon....
Frowned upon by you maybe - especially as they have all paid, there should be no restrictions on who they can play with.
Rocketry

Posted:
Tue Sep 25, 2007 12:01 pm
by hwhrhett
Rocketry wrote:hwhrhett wrote:http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=854310
lol, this game is funny.
yall shouldnt play singles games together against ppl that you dont know, it is very frowned upon....
Frowned upon by you maybe - especially as they have all paid, there should be no restrictions on who they can play with.
Rocketry
if 4 ppl all play from the same computer, and they join a game with a 5th person who is unaware, i would be angry if it happened to me. im not saying its wrong, im saying its frowned upon, because your more likely to be accused of secret alliances, not that that is the case here, but in that particular game sam accuses one of his friends of taking his own turn and cheating, lol.

Posted:
Tue Sep 25, 2007 12:04 pm
by zeppelin90
yeah well again we were trying to get us all into the game but that guy jumped in before oddball could get in...
lol and about samwise... he's one of my best friends... and i have his password... and he told me verbally not to kill some of his armies because he was gonna hit someone else with them... but instead he took my bonus with it lol so out of retaliation i took his turn and just placed his armies randomly so he was mad but thats it...

Posted:
Tue Sep 25, 2007 12:06 pm
by Rocketry
hwhrhett wrote:Rocketry wrote:hwhrhett wrote:http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=854310
lol, this game is funny.
yall shouldnt play singles games together against ppl that you dont know, it is very frowned upon....
Frowned upon by you maybe - especially as they have all paid, there should be no restrictions on who they can play with.
Rocketry
if 4 ppl all play from the same computer, and they join a game with a 5th person who is unaware, i would be angry if it happened to me. im not saying its wrong, im saying its frowned upon, because your more likely to be accused of secret alliances, not that that is the case here, but in that particular game sam accuses one of his friends of taking his own turn and cheating, lol.
I know what your saying - but, although it my make the 5th player angr. The other four havnt actually done anything wrong.
In help it says:
"some members prefer playing only in team games with people from the same computer to avoid accusations of cheating."
zeppelin90 prefers not to play team games - dont frown at him lol
Rocketry

Posted:
Tue Sep 25, 2007 12:10 pm
by hwhrhett
Rocketry wrote:hwhrhett wrote:Rocketry wrote:hwhrhett wrote:http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=854310
lol, this game is funny.
yall shouldnt play singles games together against ppl that you dont know, it is very frowned upon....
Frowned upon by you maybe - especially as they have all paid, there should be no restrictions on who they can play with.
Rocketry
if 4 ppl all play from the same computer, and they join a game with a 5th person who is unaware, i would be angry if it happened to me. im not saying its wrong, im saying its frowned upon, because your more likely to be accused of secret alliances, not that that is the case here, but in that particular game sam accuses one of his friends of taking his own turn and cheating, lol.
I know what your saying - but, although it my make the 5th player angr. The other four havnt actually done anything wrong.
In help it says:
"some members prefer playing only in team games with people from the same computer to avoid accusations of cheating."
zeppelin90 prefers not to play team games - dont frown at him lol
Rocketry
but, it appears as tho they PREFER to play team games and private games with their friends.... did you look at their history? almost all of them are team games together or private games. and the game that i posted seems to be the only game i see that isnt a team game or a private game. i dont think these guys are cheating...

Posted:
Tue Sep 25, 2007 12:22 pm
by samwisebrady
i was also one of the ones who lost my prem membership with zepplin90 and why would i need need multiple accounts when i have prem? IT HAS UNLIMITED GAMES

Posted:
Tue Sep 25, 2007 12:57 pm
by wicked
First of all, I'm pretty sure I never said I'd keep your PM, as my inbox fills up rather quickly.
Second, to appeal a bust, please use the eticket system under the Help tab.
Thanks and my apologies if you were wrongly busted.

Posted:
Tue Sep 25, 2007 2:46 pm
by samwisebrady
so do you think there is any chance that we will get prem back? and if we will be able to play with our friends?

Posted:
Tue Sep 25, 2007 2:48 pm
by wicked
If the bust is overturned, you will get your premium back. As far as being able to play together again, that's decided when your case is looked at.

Posted:
Tue Sep 25, 2007 2:57 pm
by Rocketry
wicked wrote: to appeal a bust, please use the eticket system under the Help tab.
Thanks and my apologies if you were wrongly busted.
thanks wicked - we all enjoy being told to get out of the public eye and use an eticket.

Posted:
Tue Sep 25, 2007 3:33 pm
by yorkiepeter
two questions spring to mind here.
1. Can they rebuy premium, if so then you are effectively fining them 20 bucks
2. If they are multis and have paid for several premiums, then the only possible reason can be to manipulate their score. therefore surely a more appropriate punishment would be to reset their scores

Posted:
Tue Sep 25, 2007 3:38 pm
by zeppelin90
and if you looked into it at all you'd know we weren't multi premiums because we play as teammates constantly and sometimes against each other in private games...

Posted:
Tue Sep 25, 2007 3:40 pm
by samwisebrady
thanks. and what can we do to help with getting prem back? since we did pay for it

Posted:
Tue Sep 25, 2007 3:54 pm
by hwhrhett
if youve already used the contact form, then it will be taken care of soon.

Posted:
Tue Sep 25, 2007 4:07 pm
by Rocketry
yorkiepeter wrote:two questions spring to mind here.
1. Can they rebuy premium, if so then you are effectively fining them 20 bucks
2. If they are multis and have paid for several premiums, then the only possible reason can be to manipulate their score. therefore surely a more appropriate punishment would be to reset their scores
1. Yup they can
2. Yup you are right
Rocketry

Posted:
Tue Sep 25, 2007 4:26 pm
by samwisebrady
but look at game 921330 it hasnt started yet because eggplant warrior didnt have a game open but look at our ranks. we are not manipulating accounts

Posted:
Tue Sep 25, 2007 4:51 pm
by AndyDufresne
As hwhrhett mentiond, appeals are done via the contact form. Thus, we don't exclusively need this thread.
--Andy