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secret alliance - krikke and fnmomo

PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 10:18 am
by Turboman
These are suspected Secret Alliance

Suspect users: krikke and fnmomo

Game number: http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=581379

Comments: One minute they are attacking each other before another player reminds them that I am taking over alot so all of a sudden they both stop attacking each other, take back there own original territories from each other and start attacking me.


Turboman

PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 10:38 am
by SirSebstar
no effidence produced.
Complainer was the strongest player by far. Others thinking to take him down a notch is not a secret alliance.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 12:03 pm
by Turboman
SirSebstar wrote:no effidence produced.
Complainer was the strongest player by far. Others thinking to take him down a notch is not a secret alliance.


Effidence? You mean Evidence? "Others (more than one person) thinking to take me down a notch" is more commonly known as an alliance. I hope you're not an official here. Jeez.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 12:13 pm
by Coleman
No one is going to take this seriously. A secret alliance would be 2 or more players coordinating in private in a non-team game to screw over all the other players.

In your situation people are just trying to win and have realized that attacking each other and ignoring you will not lead them towards that result.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 12:23 pm
by Turboman
Coleman wrote:No one is going to take this seriously. A secret alliance would be 2 or more players coordinating in private in a non-team game to screw over all the other players.

In your situation people are just trying to win and have realized that attacking each other and ignoring you will not lead them towards that result.


But that is exactly what an alliance is. They stop attacking each other all of a sudden and both for some strange reason decide at the exact same time to attack me.

Are you telling me that they both thought this at the same time and risked the other attacking them or messaged each other?

PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 12:31 pm
by kwanton
It happens all the time. This is NOT considred a secret alliance. What they did was in their best interest personally. If they had continued to attack each other they would have surely lost. It does not take a genius to realize attacking you would be the best course of action.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 9:42 am
by Turboman
So is a mod going to look here?

PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 9:55 am
by SirSebstar
In due time, yes. Would be easyer if you could produce more information as to why they would risk being banned though..

Any form of collusion between opponents must be announced beforehand in the game chat, in English or in a language all players understand. Secret alliances are hard to prove, but if you suspect one please leave negative feedback to the members in question. Should enough people have the same suspicion, we will take corrective action against the individual(s).

Semanticly you are correct. Any collusion it states. However its commonly understood that this would entail messaging or pre-arranged treaties. In other words some kind of action that is hidden from the other player (e.g. pm´s) as opposted to stating your truce results in chat. History shows that intentions may be pm´ed without being disclosed in chat, provided they do not lead to some kind of agreement. 2 or more players comming to the realisation that it is in their best interest to attack the strongest player is generally assumed to be acceptable. Note:without communication or previously executed plan or behavioural patern, between those parties. `Friends´ not attacking each other points more into a pre arrganged alliance in the sense that they know what to expect from eachother, beyond normal doubt.

eh, yea yea, lot of text. Basicly, no your case does not seem to be an secret alliance and mods will look at the case when they can, but secret alliances are tricky to prove so it might take a while