Adolf Hitler 33 - Offensive Name and Chat[es]

[Edric Wolfswift]

Accused:

Adolf Hitler 33

The accused are suspected of:

Offensive name and offensive comments in game chat

Game number(s):

Game 15620901

[Neoc]

riskllama: isn't it supposed to be "heil"? u like my av, AH33?

hahahaha, what a dumb f*ck (not riskllama, the other one)

[Serbia]

This should be dismissed. Would Saddam Hussein be an acceptable name? Or Pol Pot? Or Josef Stalin? "Adolf Hitler", alone as a username, is not bigoted, it's not a threat.

Bollocks.

[betiko]

This should be dismissed. Would Saddam Hussein be an acceptable name? Or Pol Pot? Or Josef Stalin? "Adolf Hitler", alone as a username, is not bigoted, it's not a threat.

Bollocks.

It s not just about hitler. Someone called hitler 33 and granting you with a "heil hitler" instead of hello gl in the game chat is ok for you?
And yes, if cc was based in the middle east it would be extremely offensive to call yourself saddam hussein. I don t see many iraki koweiti kurds iranians around or people who suffered from him.

[Serbia]

This should be dismissed. Would Saddam Hussein be an acceptable name? Or Pol Pot? Or Josef Stalin? "Adolf Hitler", alone as a username, is not bigoted, it's not a threat.

Bollocks.

It s not just about hitler. Someone called hitler 33 and granting you with a "heil hitler" instead of hello gl in the game chat is ok for you?
And yes, if cc was based in the middle east it would be extremely offensive to call yourself saddam hussein. I don t see many iraki koweiti kurds iranians around or people who suffered from him.

Still fine with it. I just don't care this morning.

Bollocks.

[betiko]

This should be dismissed. Would Saddam Hussein be an acceptable name? Or Pol Pot? Or Josef Stalin? "Adolf Hitler", alone as a username, is not bigoted, it's not a threat.

Bollocks.

It s not just about hitler. Someone called hitler 33 and granting you with a "heil hitler" instead of hello gl in the game chat is ok for you?
And yes, if cc was based in the middle east it would be extremely offensive to call yourself saddam hussein. I don t see many iraki koweiti kurds iranians around or people who suffered from him.

Still fine with it. I just don't care this morning.

Bollocks.

It's probably the most offensive thing you can say to a vast majority of europeans.

If I say heil hitler to a german wouldn't that be the most biggoted shit ever?

[owenshooter]

This should be dismissed. Would Saddam Hussein be an acceptable name? Or Pol Pot? Or Josef Stalin? "Adolf Hitler", alone as a username, is not bigoted, it's not a threat.

Bollocks.

so, can you please explain to me why every user with this username has had the name locked? just wondering... and also, Saddam is also a username that is frequently locked/changed...-Jésus noir

[Dukasaur]

This should be dismissed. Would Saddam Hussein be an acceptable name? Or Pol Pot? Or Josef Stalin? "Adolf Hitler", alone as a username, is not bigoted, it's not a threat.

Bollocks.

so, can you please explain to me why every user with this username has had the name locked? just wondering... and also, Saddam is also a username that is frequently locked/changed...-Jésus noir

Because we have no spine and cave in to the demands of political-correctness nuts?

[Serbia]

This should be dismissed. Would Saddam Hussein be an acceptable name? Or Pol Pot? Or Josef Stalin? "Adolf Hitler", alone as a username, is not bigoted, it's not a threat.

Bollocks.

so, can you please explain to me why every user with this username has had the name locked? just wondering... and also, Saddam is also a username that is frequently locked/changed...-Jésus noir

Because we have no spine and cave in to the demands of political-correctness nuts?

Basically this.

Bollocks.

[Army of GOD]

at what point does a mass murdering tyrant become acceptable?

Hitler isn't ok...is Stalin? Stalin has been "Big ballin" on CC for years now. Stalin is quantitatively worse than Hitler in terms of people killed.

Is Pol Pot? Pol Pot killed a third of the entire country of Cambodia. I'm sure no one would care if someone had a Pol Pot name.


If Stalin is allowed, Hitler has to be allowed. Otherwise you're just making arbitrary rulings.

[betiko]

at what point does a mass murdering tyrant become acceptable?

Hitler isn't ok...is Stalin? Stalin has been "Big ballin" on CC for years now. Stalin is quantitatively worse than Hitler in terms of people killed.

Is Pol Pot? Pol Pot killed a third of the entire country of Cambodia. I'm sure no one would care if someone had a Pol Pot name.


If Stalin is allowed, Hitler has to be allowed. Otherwise you're just making arbitrary rulings.

you miss the point. Not only this user is called hitler 33, he also grants with a heil hitler salute in gamechat. You guys all start with all your puritanist bullshit everytime you see a half nipple and shit.
How is it offensive and biggoted to call someone a nigger or a faggot but it's not to say heil hitler? As I said, those things are the most offensive things you can say to the average european, needless to say that it's the biggest insult you can say to a german.
pol pot and stalin, even if they were mad and mass murderers at least didn't try to go for a genocide of an entire ethnic group and started invading all their neighbours.

[waauw]

Hitler is not just a person, he is a symbol for racism. There is a reason why nazism is forbidden by law over here.

[Army of GOD]

at what point does a mass murdering tyrant become acceptable?

Hitler isn't ok...is Stalin? Stalin has been "Big ballin" on CC for years now. Stalin is quantitatively worse than Hitler in terms of people killed.

Is Pol Pot? Pol Pot killed a third of the entire country of Cambodia. I'm sure no one would care if someone had a Pol Pot name.


If Stalin is allowed, Hitler has to be allowed. Otherwise you're just making arbitrary rulings.

you miss the point. Not only this user is called hitler 33, he also grants with a heil hitler salute in gamechat. You guys all start with all your puritanist bullshit everytime you see a half nipple and shit.
How is it offensive and biggoted to call someone a nigger or a faggot but it's not to say heil hitler? As I said, those things are the most offensive things you can say to the average european, needless to say that it's the biggest insult you can say to a german.
pol pot and stalin, even if they were mad and mass murderers at least didn't try to go for a genocide of an entire ethnic group and started invading all their neighbours.

Stalin DID try to kill and entire people and invaded all his neighbors

The Holodomor famine is sometimes referred to as the Ukrainian Genocide, implying it was engineered by the Soviet government, specifically targeting the Ukrainian people to destroy the Ukrainian nation as a political factor and social entity.[81][82][83][84] While historians continue to disagree whether the policies that led to Holodomor fall under the legal definition of genocide, twenty-six countries have officially recognized the Holodomor as such. On 28 November 2006, the Ukrainian Parliament approved a bill declaring the Soviet-era forced famine an act of genocide against the Ukrainian people.[85] Professor Michael Ellman concludes that Ukrainians were victims of genocide in 1932–33 according to a more relaxed definition that is favored by some specialists in the field of genocide studies. He asserts that Soviet policies greatly exacerbated the famine's death toll. Although 1.8 million tonnes of grain were exported during the height of the starvation — enough to feed 5 million people for one year — the use of torture and execution to extract grain under the Law of Spikelets, the use of force to prevent starving peasants from fleeing the worst-affected areas, and the refusal to import grain or secure international humanitarian aid to alleviate conditions led to incalculable human suffering in the Ukraine. It would appear that Stalin intended to use the starvation as a cheap and efficient means (as opposed to deportations and shootings) to kill off those deemed to be "counterrevolutionaries," "idlers," and "thieves," but not to annihilate the Ukrainian peasantry as a whole. Ellman also claims that, while this was not the only Soviet genocide (e.g., the Polish operation of the NKVD), it was the worst in terms of mass casualties.[62]

and what do you mean by "your purtanist bullshit"? If it was up to me, nothing would be a bannable offense.

[Metsfanmax]

If Stalin is allowed, Hitler has to be allowed. Otherwise you're just making arbitrary rulings.

[Dukasaur]

at what point does a mass murdering tyrant become acceptable?

Hitler isn't ok...is Stalin? Stalin has been "Big ballin" on CC for years now. Stalin is quantitatively worse than Hitler in terms of people killed.

Is Pol Pot? Pol Pot killed a third of the entire country of Cambodia. I'm sure no one would care if someone had a Pol Pot name.


If Stalin is allowed, Hitler has to be allowed. Otherwise you're just making arbitrary rulings.

you miss the point. Not only this user is called hitler 33, he also grants with a heil hitler salute in gamechat. You guys all start with all your puritanist bullshit everytime you see a half nipple and shit.
How is it offensive and biggoted to call someone a nigger or a faggot but it's not to say heil hitler? As I said, those things are the most offensive things you can say to the average european, needless to say that it's the biggest insult you can say to a german.
pol pot and stalin, even if they were mad and mass murderers at least didn't try to go for a genocide of an entire ethnic group and started invading all their neighbours.

Re, the highlighted portion. How do you think those are even remotely similar?

Calling someone a n_____ is applying a label to them and while I don't agree with it being as harshly punished as it is, I can understand why they get upset. Calling yourself Adolf Hitler is applying a label to yourself and absolutely and utterly nobody's business but your own.

It's like the difference between rape and masturbation. One is a criminal assault on someone else, the other is something that you do only to yourself and shouldn't concern anyone.

[betiko]

at what point does a mass murdering tyrant become acceptable?

Hitler isn't ok...is Stalin? Stalin has been "Big ballin" on CC for years now. Stalin is quantitatively worse than Hitler in terms of people killed.

Is Pol Pot? Pol Pot killed a third of the entire country of Cambodia. I'm sure no one would care if someone had a Pol Pot name.


If Stalin is allowed, Hitler has to be allowed. Otherwise you're just making arbitrary rulings.

you miss the point. Not only this user is called hitler 33, he also grants with a heil hitler salute in gamechat. You guys all start with all your puritanist bullshit everytime you see a half nipple and shit.
How is it offensive and biggoted to call someone a nigger or a faggot but it's not to say heil hitler? As I said, those things are the most offensive things you can say to the average european, needless to say that it's the biggest insult you can say to a german.
pol pot and stalin, even if they were mad and mass murderers at least didn't try to go for a genocide of an entire ethnic group and started invading all their neighbours.

Re, the highlighted portion. How do you think those are even remotely similar?

Calling someone a n_____ is applying a label to them and while I don't agree with it being as harshly punished as it is, I can understand why they get upset. Calling yourself Adolf Hitler is applying a label to yourself and absolutely and utterly nobody's business but your own.

It's like the difference between rape and masturbation. One is a criminal assault on someone else, the other is something that you do only to yourself and shouldn't concern anyone.

saying "heil hitler" basically praises hitler and his ideology, IE kill all jews gays and tzigans and the superiority of the arian race.
A nigger is basically a black slave. It's desperciative as it brings people to their ancestor's condition.

I'm not going to scale those terrible things, but what you say is ridiculously stupid.

[Lord Arioch]

I think the user name itself isnt offensive ... its a name ... as is Stalin (BBS is offensive though)
what i find offensive is Heil Hitler! Thats illegal over here and i totally support Betiko on this... that salute should give him a slap! The name Adolf Hitler isnt in itself illegal but but into a nazi context it is!

Did that make sense...

[Major.Bossman]

I swear something like this happened before with a hitler. Anyone else think its going to be the story of someone getting drunk and then doing something stupid? This is probably going to get closed because the accused was a one time deal.
Anyway Hitler and the nazis were not the first to preach the superiority of one group over another or commit ethnic cleansing by means of genocide nor will they probably be the last. The world occasionally regresses into authoritarian or totalitarian states which commit atrocities and pervert truth, reality, and history from their peoples. Those of us who live in liberal societies are normally exposed to multiple narratives which can allow a more complete view of reality. Although the phrase "Heil Hitler" can be very offensive especially in Europe there needs to be a balance where there is a condemnation of the ideas that they stood for and the actions they committed without restricting free speech and by extension what it entails.

[riskllama]

the guy didn't even spell it right - he's just some stupid kid who has no idea about anything. warn him for the salute, let him keep the name and let's carry on...

[persianempire]

Theres nothing wrong with his name. If hes forced to change his name it will be a travesty. the only problem is going around saying heil Hitler for that he should be warned or banned a day or something because that would encourage Naziism , the ideology in question, of which this site has the obligation of promoting its strict neutrality on all political matters. Names on the other hand are free game, only names that are explicitly sexual , racial , defame others on the site or a group of people in general should be banned . If you cant use the name of a war figure on a war site then wtf is the purpose of this game.

[riskllama]

looks like he's lost interest anyways. missed his turn in both games he is currently in. busy with preparations for a Fourth Reich, maybe?

[ZornSlayer]

looks like he's lost interest anyways. missed his turn in both games he is currently in. busy with preparations for a Fourth Reich, maybe?

Painting a post card for Mother's Day.

New player, who knows where they are coming from. Honestly, if the game runners don't want names or persona like that, they should state clearly in the guidelines.

[betiko]

looks like he's lost interest anyways. missed his turn in both games he is currently in. busy with preparations for a Fourth Reich, maybe?

Painting a post card for Mother's Day.

New player, who knows where they are coming from. Honestly, if the game runners don't want names or persona like that, they should state clearly in the guidelines.

Yes probably. But the biggest issue here is more about the heil hitlering in chat.

[Serbia]

looks like he's lost interest anyways. missed his turn in both games he is currently in. busy with preparations for a Fourth Reich, maybe?

Painting a post card for Mother's Day.

New player, who knows where they are coming from. Honestly, if the game runners don't want names or persona like that, they should state clearly in the guidelines.

I agree with Zorn. If you don't want Hitler names, they should be blocked when signing up.

Bollocks.