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Johnnyrocket24, dupa, Wild_Tiger, Visvivalaw [Cleared]

Posted:
Fri May 11, 2007 4:25 am
by killer1982
These are suspected Secret Alliance, possibly multiple accounts
Suspect users: Johnnyrocket24, dupa, Wild_Tiger, Visvivalaw
Game numbers:
http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=414067
http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=414020
http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=414021
http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=413990
Comments: Visvivalaw always on opposing team of three others, playing to destruct his own team, handing victory to the three first mentioned.
Killer1982

Posted:
Fri May 11, 2007 4:30 am
by Iliad
he did not "destruct" his own team. He attacked his team, once, in those 4 games. I don't see how that is always out to destruct his own team.

Posted:
Fri May 11, 2007 5:05 am
by killer1982
Iliad -
First of all, he did attack his own team several times, scroll through the game log and you'll see
Secondly, destroying does not necessarily imply attacking. Preventing a team member getting a continent by fortifying for no reason on the one country he holds is another way, especially in a no cards game.
Thirdly, it is rather suspicious that he signs up a few seconds after the three others, don't you think, ensuring that he will always be on the opposing team
Fourthly, if you look at the games that these three players are playing as a team, they often end up playing a novice player, who just signed up recently, and is somehow mysteriously a very bad team player
Fifthly, who are you?
Killer1982

Posted:
Sun May 13, 2007 12:45 pm
by killer1982
who responds to these suspicions? the moderators, or how does it work?

Posted:
Sun May 13, 2007 4:25 pm
by hecter
The mods would, but I think you're suspicions are unfounded. I really don't think you have the proof required.

Posted:
Sun May 13, 2007 4:43 pm
by AAFitz
It is very possible that visvivalaw is killing his partners....its also possible that hes purposely doing it for the other team, but its also more than likely the other team doesnt know who hes is, want him to do it, or condone it in any way.
Ive had opponents go balistic on their partners before, but never knew them before that...it happens a lot.
Its even theoretically possible that hes helping one person on the team or that hes trying to frame the players on that team, which I actually think is just as likely...but the mods will look into it. But it does take time...but I would focus your energy on visivalaw...not the other three...im guessing they didnt even know he was in there.

Posted:
Sun May 13, 2007 5:00 pm
by DukeNukeEm
Right... but "destructive" or not, it IS suspicious that he's in so many games with the same three opponents

Posted:
Sun May 13, 2007 5:10 pm
by AAFitz
four games with players that have played thousands...and four right in a row....im not saying it doesnt deserve any check...im just saying there is a 99 percent chance its a random event, and that i can just about guarantee the three of them arent about to blatently throw games with a fourth player, for the 40 points they will win from them....
they will be more insulted that you think they are that stupid, than that you think they may have cheated....

Posted:
Sun May 13, 2007 5:12 pm
by AAFitz
I could join ten doubles games with an unsuspecting partner against a team I know right now, and throw every one of them...it would look like the other team was in on it, but it would just be me being a dirtbag....you probably dont want to call the other team cheaters in that case right?....thats all im saying here.

Posted:
Sun May 13, 2007 5:22 pm
by safariguy5
Fitz is right. If you look at how Johnnyrocket24 creates triples games, he always has a team join him. Often premium members will just join every game that he has open. I don't think this is very suspicious, and with Johnnyrocket24's rank, I don't think he would hurt himself by cheating.

Posted:
Mon May 14, 2007 2:42 pm
by Master Bush
Johnnyrocket24, dupa, Wild_Tiger, Visvivalaw have been Cleared of multis.

Posted:
Sun May 20, 2007 3:37 pm
by JOHNNYROCKET24
ROFL
did you check all 3,000 + of my games or just the 4 in question. I think Killer was the player that was screaming during the game that his teamates were trying to win the game for me. Its just simply amazing how noobs join this site and abuse every resource available to show how stupid they really are. Someone please tell Killer that im sure being the number 1 player here that my acount has been checked most likely on a weekly basis. Did he think his post was really going to make the difference ?

Posted:
Mon May 21, 2007 2:54 am
by killer1982
oooh, touchy ego there, big shot. So because you are such a hotshot, and I am new to this, I shouldn't report what I consider clear cheating? I must have missed that bit in the rules section.

Posted:
Mon May 21, 2007 4:03 am
by Iliad
killer1982 wrote:oooh, touchy ego there, big shot. So because you are such a hotshot, and I am new to this, I shouldn't report what I consider clear cheating? I must have missed that bit in the rules section.
you should report if you think it's cheating but you should also think about whether attacking once the other in team in 4 games is cheating.

Posted:
Mon May 21, 2007 5:31 am
by alex_white101
killer1982 wrote:oooh, touchy ego there, big shot. So because you are such a hotshot, and I am new to this, I shouldn't report what I consider clear cheating? I must have missed that bit in the rules section.
