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Posted: **Mon Jun 21, 2010 12:14 am**

Accused:

army of nobunaga

The accused are suspected of: throwing games

Game number(s):
These are all 2 player games and AON's win rate.

AOR1 2 out of 14 games
AOR 2 1 out of 24 games
AOR 3 0 out of 18 games

Comments: Stumbled on this as he called out for help, which seems like it could be a defacto coverup of obvious game throwing.
Winning 3 games out of over 60 two player games can be nothing less than intentional throwing of games on any map in CC.

If you were really trying AON, than Im sorry you've found such difficulty with it...and again I can only suggest you actually try to attack someone instead of just deploying each round. However, it seems like you clearly want to lose these for whatever reason, and its one of the more obvious cases Ive personally seen in a while.

Posted: **Mon Jun 21, 2010 12:17 am**

good thread, if Im found guilty Ill never come back to cc.

if I am innocent, which is fucking obvious, i will hound you till you die in CC.. you little putz.

Posted: **Mon Jun 21, 2010 12:23 am**

army of nobunaga wrote:good thread, if Im found guilty Ill never come back to cc.

if I am innocent, which is fucking obvious, i will hound you till you die in CC.. you little putz.

What is the obvious reason you lost 95% on a map that is an easy 50% win map. If Im missing it, feel free to explain. I simply looked at your games and saw a player never attacking and losing near every game. I couldnt look at all of them though.

Was it the dice?
Is the map too complicated?
Did you attack too many neutrals?

Any explanation would be helpful. As far as vowing to harass me...how you spend your free time is of no concern. And if you are guilty of throwing this many games as well as your continued flaming, its very possible you wont be given the choice whether to come back to CC.

But again, if Im missing some unknown reason for what seems like an impossibly low win rate, just explain.

I dont even think brand new players to the site lose this many, unless they deadbeat out of them. But its just an accusation. If you have an explanation, Im sure there will be no problem. I just can think of one myself that would explain it.

Posted: **Mon Jun 21, 2010 12:28 am**

Im not going to defend myself.. Im going to let you make your accusation and make a complete ass out of yourself... Jealousy , bitterness, daddy spent to much time with sister... I dont know what it is with you... I dont care... I just want to see your case and let the mods deem me guilty or not

Me being the most fucking Anti-cheat not care about points mother fucker you will ever lay eyes on has nothing to do with this and ill not defend any game Ive ever played. I play hard. If I feel like I have statistically lost, i just deploy and end turn. I play like that my whole cc career. so prove it asshole. Im waiting on pins and needles

Posted: **Mon Jun 21, 2010 12:29 am**

and this is your hero

Re: since you asked for the thread

Sent: Mon Jun 21, 2010 6:25 am
From: AAFitz
To: army of nobunaga
Ill leave the figuring out men to you thanks.

Whats great about that accusation is, you are either guilty of throwing games...which is well...obvious

or being perhaps the worst player to ever play on those maps.

In any case, your posts do truly post how great your life must be. I am envious beyond all belief. :-$

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he doesnt care if Im guilty or not.. he is just raising a stink.

Posted: **Mon Jun 21, 2010 12:32 am**

AAFitz wrote:<DELETE ME>
PLACE THE NAME OF THE ACCUSED IN THE SUBJECT LINE!!!

Replace or delete any xxxxxxx with the appropriate information.
Delete any accusations or entries which do not apply.

Be sure before you accuse someone!
</DELETE ME>

Accused:

army of nobunaga
xxxxxxx
xxxxxxx

The accused are suspected of: throwing games

Being Multis
Conducting Secret Diplomacy
Severe PM Abuse
Other: <Explanation>

Game number(s):
These are all 2 player games:
AOR1 2 out of 14 games
AOR 2 1 out of 24 games
AOR 3 0 out of 18 games

Comments: Stumbled on this as he called out for help, which seems like it could be a defacto coverup of obvious game throwing.
Winning 3 games out of over 60 two player games can be nothing less than intentional throwing of games on any map in CC.

If you were really trying AON, than Im sorry you've found such difficulty with it...and again I can only suggest you actually try to attack someone instead of just deploying each round. However, it seems like you clearly want to lose these for whatever reason, and its one of the more obvious cases Ive personally seen in a while.

Incapable of filling out forms?

AoN a multi? Secret diplomacy? Pm'ng you abusively?

Or perhaps you filed a spurious report cuz you got called an asshole.

Be honest fitzy.

Posted: **Mon Jun 21, 2010 12:35 am**

army of nobunaga wrote:Im not going to defend myself.. Im going to let you make your accusation and make a complete ass out of yourself... Jealousy , bitterness, daddy spent to much time with sister... I dont know what it is with you... I dont care... I just want to see your case and let the mods deem me guilty or not

Me being the most fucking Anti-cheat not care about points mother fucker you will ever lay eyes on has nothing to do with this and ill not defend any game Ive ever played. I play hard. If I feel like I have statistically lost, i just deploy and end turn. I play like that my whole cc career. so prove it asshole. Im waiting on pins and needles

I dont have to prove anything, though you pretty much did to most I would think. But I will point out that you asked for help on these maps on how to win them, and I gave you the best advice anyone could give, which was to actually attack, and not throw them. You then asked for a cheating accusation and here it is.

As far as making an ass out of myself, if people think I am unreasonable to think you might have the ability to win more than say 3% of 2 player games on a few easy maps, than Im happy to take that risk.

Posted: **Mon Jun 21, 2010 12:41 am**

jefjef wrote:
AAFitz wrote:<DELETE ME>
PLACE THE NAME OF THE ACCUSED IN THE SUBJECT LINE!!!

Replace or delete any xxxxxxx with the appropriate information.
Delete any accusations or entries which do not apply.

Be sure before you accuse someone!
</DELETE ME>

Accused:

army of nobunaga
xxxxxxx
xxxxxxx

The accused are suspected of: throwing games

Being Multis
Conducting Secret Diplomacy
Severe PM Abuse
Other: <Explanation>

Game number(s):
These are all 2 player games:
AOR1 2 out of 14 games
AOR 2 1 out of 24 games
AOR 3 0 out of 18 games

Comments: Stumbled on this as he called out for help, which seems like it could be a defacto coverup of obvious game throwing.
Winning 3 games out of over 60 two player games can be nothing less than intentional throwing of games on any map in CC.

If you were really trying AON, than Im sorry you've found such difficulty with it...and again I can only suggest you actually try to attack someone instead of just deploying each round. However, it seems like you clearly want to lose these for whatever reason, and its one of the more obvious cases Ive personally seen in a while.

Incapable of filling out forms?

AoN a multi? Secret diplomacy? Pm'ng you abusively?

Or perhaps you filed a spurious report cuz you got called an asshole.

Be honest fitzy.

Actually, I simply haven't finished editing the original post.

As far as being honest, if you think he was not throwing games and tried to win and only won 3% of maps on which he had a 50% chance, be my guest. I myself give him the credit of being smarter and a better player than that.

As far as the reason for the accusation, he posted for help on those maps, so I checked his games to see what he was doing wrong....which seems to be not attacking...pretty much ever...Ive never seen anyone lose that much without game throwing. If you have, perhaps you know better than me. In any case, posting a 3% win rate in 60 games is hardly spurious...I think its probably the most obvious case of game throwing ever posted to actually be honest.

And really, I simply dont have time to make a cheating thread for everyone that calls me an asshole...but more importantly, they dont seem to cheat as blatently.

Posted: **Mon Jun 21, 2010 12:42 am**

here we go AA.. You win. you wanted to show CC how bad I suck. Its fucking ok.. I do. I have a hard time to keep a goddamn major rank, actually I cant.
You win

I guess these are all the maps I cheat at.

The funny thing about online... and it hurts me emotionally.. Im use to squad members, persian/asian citizens/ bosses .. looking me in the eye saying "Why/What did you do??? "... this online shit.. where people dont even... fucking dont even care? It rips me apart.

Yeah I suck at CC. Happy?

goodnight.

Posted: **Mon Jun 21, 2010 12:48 am**

hmmm...this is interesting....

Posted: **Mon Jun 21, 2010 12:53 am**

army of nobunaga wrote:here we go AA.. You win. you wanted to show CC how bad I suck. Its fucking ok.. I do. I have a hard time to keep a goddamn major rank, actually I cant.
You win

I guess these are all the maps I cheat at.

The funny thing about online... and it hurts me emotionally.. Im use to squad members, persian/asian citizens/ bosses .. looking me in the eye saying "Why/What did you do??? "... this online shit.. where people dont even... fucking dont even care? It rips me apart.

Yeah I suck at CC. Happy?

goodnight.

Dont worry man, I dont think you suck at CC at all. I just think you threw the games on purpose which is just a decision on your part, not a reflection of your ability at all. Unfortunately, your decision to throw games so obviously and so often is a clear violation of the rules, for which you may very well not to get to play again.

In any case, I dont care much about this myself. You begged me and threatened me to make an accusation thread, after bringing attention to your game throwing in the first place. The rest is out of my hands. If you simply cant win more than 3 to 5% of your 2 player games, I feel far more sorry than if you simply were game throwing, but again...I give you much more credit than that, and will never think you play that badly. I truly hope most see it the same way, because its one thing to throw games, its quite another to simply not be able to actually play what is usually a very, simple and basic game. Especially after playing a few thousand of them.

Posted: **Mon Jun 21, 2010 12:55 am**

f*ck it.. you win... i quit.

ill finish my team games out.

noone calls me a cheater.. not to my face..

Its not worth it.

Im done

I hate cheaters and wimps like you with a passion that would cripple you just to look at.

But im not going to be apart of this.

adios.

have fun with CC

Posted: **Mon Jun 21, 2010 1:10 am**

army of nobunaga wrote:f*ck it.. you win... i quit.

ill finish my team games out.

noone calls me a cheater.. not to my face..

Its not worth it.

Im done

I hate cheaters and wimps like you with a passion that would cripple you just to look at.

But im not going to be apart of this.

adios.

have fun with CC

Well, as you posted before, this is the internet and no one really cares....though you seem to quite a bit ironically....Im technically just posting that the player named Army of nobunaga was throwing games, which was quite obvious....and not really calling you a cheater to your face.

As far as being crippled by looking at your passion...well...I beg you not to post a picture of your passionate hate.

And just remember....I found this when I saw you asking for help on a map I play a lot and was assuming I might be able to help you with. Irony can simply be ironic at times.

Posted: **Mon Jun 21, 2010 1:12 am**

I think aon seems like a huge prick. However, if you look at the games at issue here, it seems like they would be ending even faster if he were throwing them. AoR1 seems easy if you get lucky, but it is actually a skill to learn the bonuses and other nuances to win a lot. I took my lumps when I first started playing it too. AoR2 and AoR3 are hard maps to learn. aon seemed to be feeling his way around them and this is supported by the thread where this started where he was asking for help. I guess I'm just not convinced this is point dumping or game throwing. I think he might just be terrible on the AoR maps.

Posted: **Mon Jun 21, 2010 1:15 am**

I don't know anyone on this thread, I just wish AA would use better grammar. It's like I'm talking to my 9-year-old brother-in-law.

Posted: **Mon Jun 21, 2010 1:18 am**

angola wrote:I don't know anyone on this thread, I just wish AA would use better grammar. It's like I'm talking to my 9-year-old brother-in-law.

You let your sister marry a 9-year-old? That is just weird. :lol:

Posted: **Mon Jun 21, 2010 1:22 am**

chemefreak wrote:I think aon seems like a huge prick. However, if you look at the games at issue here, it seems like they would be ending even faster if he were throwing them. AoR1 seems easy if you get lucky, but it is actually a skill to learn the bonuses and other nuances to win a lot. I took my lumps when I first started playing it too. AoR2 and AoR3 are hard maps to learn. aon seemed to be feeling his way around them and this is supported by the thread where this started where he was asking for help. I guess I'm just not convinced this is point dumping or game throwing. I think he might just be terrible on the AoR maps.

Hes dropping and not attacking on most of them...that isnt trying, that isnt being bad, thats throwing them. It is possible that out of 60 games that he only won 4 I suppose, but its beyond unlikely, and this isnt some new player. Hes played nearly 5000 games.

If you think they are that tough that someone can lose pretty much every single one, and cant learn to actually attack after say 16 or 17 straight losses...than so be it. I simply have never seen anyone play so poorly that wasnt doing so on purpose.

If they are freestyle and speed against a great player, maybe, but even then, youd accidentally win more than that.

Posted: **Mon Jun 21, 2010 1:27 am**

AAFitz wrote:
chemefreak wrote:I think aon seems like a huge prick. However, if you look at the games at issue here, it seems like they would be ending even faster if he were throwing them. AoR1 seems easy if you get lucky, but it is actually a skill to learn the bonuses and other nuances to win a lot. I took my lumps when I first started playing it too. AoR2 and AoR3 are hard maps to learn. aon seemed to be feeling his way around them and this is supported by the thread where this started where he was asking for help. I guess I'm just not convinced this is point dumping or game throwing. I think he might just be terrible on the AoR maps.

Hes dropping and not attacking on most of them...that isnt trying, that isnt being bad, thats throwing them. It is possible that out of 60 games that he only won 4 I suppose, but its beyond unlikely, and this isnt some new player. Hes played nearly 5000 games.

If you think they are that tough that someone can lose pretty much every single one, and cant learn to actually attack after say 16 or 17 straight losses...than so be it. I simply have never seen anyone play so poorly that wasnt doing so on purpose.

If they are freestyle and speed against a great player, maybe, but even then, youd accidentally win more than that.

you win man.. im leaving

CC isnt worth this...

I hope you find it so.

I tell you this with tears in my eye though. I would rather put a fucking knife in my stomach than cheat at anything in this life.

You people... You people dont even realize there is an honor online. There is honor and sacrifice in everything you do. In every button or mouse click you click. Balance is the key to life. Fitz you win. From where I come from, We do NOT defend ourselves when we are innocent. We fight... baring that we leave.

Im gone...

Good job.. I hope your life is a little better for yourself. I really do. this isnt sarcarm or being an asshole. I Was once a mean guy. I did mean things. I was paid to show mean what mean really is. Buddhism has changed me alittle. well a lot. Fitz, live a great life man. I mean it. And I apologize for all my negative remarks.
I never cheated. I would be the last to cheat in a game.

But i Quit.

adios
brian w

Posted: **Mon Jun 21, 2010 1:34 am**

angola wrote:I don't know anyone on this thread, I just wish AA would use better grammar. It's like I'm talking to my 9-year-old brother-in-law.

Reading this thread is like talking to your brother-in-law?

Posted: **Mon Jun 21, 2010 1:40 am**

i think you both have had your say....lets give this a lock so we can sort through this

Posted: **Tue Jun 29, 2010 8:40 am**

I am clearing AON of throwing games. Quite simply bad play doesnt equal throwing games. If he had a good record then all of a sudden had a bad one then perhaps.

Posted: **Tue Jun 29, 2010 1:26 pm**

AON loses a lot because he is not afraid to try any map on any setting! It bugs me that some players, ( not mentioning any names ) would rather concern themselves with ruining other players CC experience, then on there own play. Grow up, quit bitching about players because you are jealous of them, and play your own games.

Posted: **Tue Jun 29, 2010 7:43 pm**

lord voldemort wrote:I am clearing AON of throwing games. Quite simply bad play doesnt equal throwing games. If he had a good record then all of a sudden had a bad one then perhaps.

A good - fair - unbiased and correct decision. =D>

Posted: **Wed Jun 30, 2010 11:06 am**

I am currently trying to clear up all his ongoing games so he can retire..I be happy to let him no his honor is still intact and the verdict here

Posted: **Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:22 pm**

Fitz, man, did you bother to map rank the people who AoN lost most of his games to?

yazoochick – AoR2 - Brigadier294 +2206 257 from 539(48%)
yazoochick – AoR3 - Corporal53 +147 219 from 418(52%)
jleonnn – AoR2 - Field Marshal +9694 1940 from 3341(58%)
jleonnn – AoR3 - Corporal89 +111 116 from 228(51%)
gordito – AoR1 - Field Marshal +4089 2316 from 3463(67%)

This is like accusing somebody of point dumping for going 3-67 trying to learn City Mogul by playing Herpes. Given those stats, I think it was kinda shitty to pursue this after seeing how much you were offending his honor. He already lost the games, so why kick him when he's down? You're familiar enough with the proof needed to prove point dumping and accusing him without having enough means you did this for ego. Lame.

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