Conquer Club

Accused:

220555
160242

EDIT: those player links don't seem to work for me so here are the whole profile URLs:
memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=220555
memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=160242



The accused are suspected of:

Being Multis
Conducting Secret Diplomacy



Game number(s):

Game 5979854

EDIT: just checked another game they happen to be together in and found they employ the same tricks there:
Game 5979869

also they play together in almost all games: http://www.conquerclub.com/player.php?m ... +Fins&so=D



Comments:
I think they are cooperating very closely or are even the same person. In game 5979854 that they are playing with me they always play moves within a few seconds of eachother and it's a freestyle game so they could potentially play whenever they wanted in 24 hours. I became suspicious just now when their "team" got 2 moves one after the other in which they focused their attack on me, combined they got 4 moves one after the other in less than 10 minutes:

2009-12-01 23:00:26 - Fresno Fins ended the turn and got spoils
2009-12-01 23:00:44 - James Gang received 3 troops for holding ?
...
2009-12-01 23:03:08 - James Gang ended the turn and got spoils
2009-12-01 23:03:08 - Incrementing game to round 15
2009-12-01 23:03:25 - Fresno Fins received 3 troops for holding ?
...
2009-12-01 23:06:37 - Fresno Fins ended the turn and got spoils
2009-12-01 23:06:56 - James Gang received 3 troops for holding ?


and here are some other examples of this type of play throughout the game:
2009-12-01 02:21:36 - James Gang ended the turn and got spoils
2009-12-01 02:21:58 - Fresno Fins received 3 troops for holding ?

2009-11-30 19:12:56 - James Gang ended the turn and got spoils
2009-11-30 19:12:56 - Incrementing game to round 12
2009-11-30 19:13:12 - Fresno Fins received 3 troops for holding ?

2009-11-29 22:48:28 - Fresno Fins ended the turn and got spoils
2009-11-29 22:55:54 - James Gang received 3 troops for holding ?

2009-11-28 21:44:09 - Fresno Fins ended the turn and got spoils
2009-11-28 21:48:57 - James Gang received 3 troops for 4 regions
...
2009-11-28 21:50:26 - James Gang ended the turn and got spoils
2009-11-28 21:50:27 - Incrementing game to round 9
2009-11-28 21:51:05 - Fresno Fins received 4 troops for holding ?
...
2009-11-28 21:54:45 - Fresno Fins ended the turn and got spoils
2009-11-28 21:55:38 - James Gang received 3 troops for holding ?


etc. etc.

they do this all the time, it seems like a very odd coincidence that they happen to play in the same few minutes of a day when they have 24 whole hours to choose from. i hope admins can check their IPs or something.

also take note of how many games they play together in!


and another thing, Fresno Fins has won 15 of the 32 games he finished so far, and almost all of his games have 6 players or more. i think this is very suspicious, he couldn't have done it without help.


EDIT: i did some more digging and found that james gang is apparently fresno fins' dad: Game 5162202
but that's no excuse to conduct secret diplomacy and try to give free points to fresno fins.
after a search with the game finder i found that there were 17 games when james and fresno played together against other players and Fresno Fins won 11 of them.

Accused:

Fresno Fins
James Gang

i would say it seems a clear case of bias play, easily solved just ask them to avoid playing with each other in public games or inform player via game chat.

James Gang is my dad and we are not the same person. He actually introduced me to the game, but I assure you that our gameplay is fair and strategic. If at all it seems that we are working together then it is by coincidence and not my intention at all

hey admins, i changed my mind, don't ban them, they are ok people and they promised not to do it again

Georgije wrote:hey admins, i changed my mind, don't ban them, they are ok people and they promised not to do it again

I am going to close this per the OP's request.