Cleared jltessex and nongtang [BG]

[garcimud]

Accused:

jltessex
NongTang


The accused are suspected of:

Conducting Secret Diplomacy



Game number(s):

Game 14482467


Comments:

Jiltessex send pm to nongtang which nongtang didnt see at first place. But than nontang appologise to jiltessex on game chat about missing to read his msg on time. Jiltessex than reply on game chat that nongtang need to respond faster and that he already an open a clear route for nongtang to attack my troops in australia. Sice than nongtang and jiltessex dont attack each others.

Proof of this "secret alliance" is on game chat and they dont hide it at all.

Point is. They made secret aliance through PM. And than they didnt even try to hide it.
Im skipping my turna until i see respond from you

Thank you

garcimud

[Kaskavel]

How comes the conclusion that a PM was sent?

[garcimud]

Because nongtang respond on game chat. "He is sorry for miss to read jiltessex msg before he made his turn". And than jiltessex respond back to him in game chat that even without nongtang reapond. He left 1s on each territories for nongtang easy attack on me in australia.

[Kaskavel]

This is the chat the OP is talking of.
There is no mention of PM as the OP suggests, the phrase "chat log" is used
On the other hand, none of the accused had ever spoken to the chat until that point and blue's sudden "response to the air" is strange.
So there are 2 senarios.
1. Accusation is true and reference was to a PM, but wrong phrase was used
2. Accusation is false and accused was meaning accuser's previous posts (which did offer info about what was going on) or the game log maybe.
The phrase "someone is ranting" can also be interpreted twofold. It may mean the accuser's previous ranting (most probable) or some PM ranting
I wonder if access to player's PMs is allowed in such cases (by mods)

[garcimud]

Kaskavel thanks for research. What would be the next step?

[Donelladan]

First of all stop missing turns. This is not allowed by the site to miss turn in purpose, and this is totally useless.
There is no next step, you need to wait for mod to check.

You may give further evidence if you have of the secret diplomacy.

But I think you're wrong and there is no secret diplomacy going on in this game, at least it doesn't looks like at all.

[Shannon Apple]

Did you report scallear for his posts on your wall garcimud. What he did there is a real example of secret diplomacy, even if you did not respond in kind.

[garcimud]

Donelladan thanks for reply.

No secret diplomacy? Why did nongtang reply to green he miss to read "game chat". When green didnt post anything on game chat?
Why they didn't attack each others since than? It was pass who know how many turns since than.


Thanks

P.S. for sure i will skip my turns. For two reasons.

1. Waiting for admin to do something
2. Im not giving satisfaction to the losers whith who I play with to lose from them. They will win playing against NEUTRAL player.

P.s.s. just check last 2 move of nongtang and jltessex. They both have bonusses. Thay both have triple more units. And they still attacking me. Jilessex is in better shape holding europe and africa. Nongtang didnt even think about breaking his bonusses.

Nongtang is little bit piss on me because of my "big mouth" so he is doing some kind revenge strategy here.

[garcimud]

Shannon thanks for reply.

I didnt report scaller because i didnt do what he asked me. But i report him to the other player in that game.
Game with scaller is long time over. But his thread is about different game here. Thanks

[garcimud]

I just got warning from adming about secret diplomacy for game with scaller that was over long time ago?????

[Shannon Apple]

You should just PM one of the multi-hunters and discuss that with them.

[IcePack]

First of all stop missing turns. This is not allowed by the site to miss turn in purpose, and this is totally useless.
There is no next step, you need to wait for mod to check.

You may give further evidence if you have of the secret diplomacy.

But I think you're wrong and there is no secret diplomacy going on in this game, at least it doesn't looks like at all.

I'm pretty sure you can miss turns, but not deadbeat.

[NongTang]

2014-06-11 00:59:42 - garcimud: nong tang? why suicide?
2014-06-11 01:01:23 - garcimud: i dont kow what you've been thinking. but you habe this game to the green.
2014-06-11 01:02:14 - garcimud: he has 4 cards in his hands. he can easy conquer you and yellow and get 3 card from you. and 5 from yellow
2014-06-11 01:03:17 - garcimud: and finish this game in 2 turns. max 3
2014-06-11 01:23:16 - garcimud: ohoho he cashed his 3 cards. let see if he will go for yellow 5 cards?
2014-06-11 01:23:58 - garcimud: ooooooooo and he did. hahaha
2014-06-11 01:26:12 - garcimud: bravo nong tang. BRAVOOOOOO. how briliant gameplay. it is so nice to be marked as suicider.
2014-06-11 01:30:49 - garcimud: non tang??? you have 40% wins? nooooo way. how come when you are suicider? how come you manage to have 40% wins with suicide strategy
2014-06-11 01:32:14 - garcimud: what??? green miss chance to win this game leaving blue in life. hohoho
2014-06-11 01:32:20 - garcimud: crazy
2014-06-11 13:29:11 - NongTang: sorry green i didn't read the chat log before play


these are "chat log" that i have mentioned...
i attacked him because he is a big mouth that's it
i play after he leave msg for 10lines(like you see) and i didn't read at all then i attack green which i always attack a big mouth players like him. (garcimud)
so i said sorry green i didn't read the chat log before play, and i didn't send any msg to green
but that kid (i guess) keep typing "secret alliance" "secret alliance" "secret alliance"
and then he stop playing and let the time out for 3 times then he was kicked..

[NongTang]

at the first of this topic i think he intend to make misunderstanding so he cut all of his msg before my post.
this is just a game what is the reason to play if i have to cheat??
i play just for fun no matter win or lose i get nothing and pay nothing ...
hopefully he can understand some of my words

and first of all i'm not that stupid to show in public that if i would make a secret alliance... if i do i will keep all in secret lol
ps. i never checked my PM .

[garcimud]

I didnt cut anything. What are you talking about? If you didnt make secret alliance. Why did you give this game to green by not attacking him AT ALL when it was obvious he will win this game?

You decide to beceome suicider because of my big mouth???

Thats the reason??? Thanks for showing us who is a real kid here

Let finish this once for all. You are going on Foe list as suicider.

[NongTang]

you post only my msg which can make misunderstanding why didn't you post all msg? so others can understand the reason

[NongTang]

I didnt cut anything. What are you talking about? If you didnt make secret alliance. Why did you give this game to blue by not attacking him AT ALL wheb it was obvious he will win this game?

i told you many many times. i just don't like a big mouth like you.
or i don't have the rights to decide my way???
at least i didn't break anyrules.

[garcimud]

So you are admit youve been attacking me because of my big mouth (just for fun). Im prety sure that kind of atrategy is against the rule.

Check the rules on this page
As unwriten rules
http://www.conquerclub.com/public.php?mode=rules

I didnt cut anything. What are you talking about? If you didnt make secret alliance. Why did you give this game to blue by not attacking him AT ALL wheb it was obvious he will win this game?

i told you many many times. i just don't like a big mouth like you.
or i don't have the rights to decide my way???
at least i didn't break anyrules.

[NongTang]

if you are not a kid ,You would have to say "SORRY" and feel guilty because you wrongly Accuse me

[NongTang]

So you are admit youve been attacking me because of my big mouth (just for fun). Im prety sure that kind of atrategy is against the rule.

Check the rules on this page
As unwriten rules
http://www.conquerclub.com/public.php?mode=rules

I didnt cut anything. What are you talking about? If you didnt make secret alliance. Why did you give this game to blue by not attacking him AT ALL wheb it was obvious he will win this game?

i told you many many times. i just don't like a big mouth like you.
or i don't have the rights to decide my way???
at least i didn't break anyrules.

Kid , i said "i play this game for fun" << i mean no need to be serious nor cheat.
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.
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"and i attacked you because of your big mouth" i decide to attack you instead of green , could I?

i have never said that i attack you because of your big mouth (just for fun).

again you try to make a misunderstanding...

and talk with a kid like you is totally useless.. i just wanna prove that i never make a secret alliance.

when i can prove first topid you change the topic and then keep blaming me no matter what I explain . so go on .
anyway this is my first time to join this forums and I explained all things and no more reason to come back ( until new topic lol)
then let's the admin judge me not your bias.
bye all

[garcimud]

I have right to accuse you because you acted axactly as someone who make secret alliance will do. Not attacking your pal.

And afyer you admit you did the same thing. Why would i say sorry

Both thing you did are against the rule.
Secret aliance and deadbeating suiciding etc

if you are not a kid ,You would have to say "SORRY" and feel guilty because you wrongly Accuse me

[NongTang]

2014-06-13 10:37:55 - NongTang: I will believe that you give up whenever you are kicked from the game
2014-06-13 13:32:12 - garcimud: you play against neutral player
2014-06-13 13:32:38 - garcimud: now
2014-06-13 15:54:25 - garcimud: why would i return to play when i dont have chance to win this game?


Oh i forgot this..
this is the real reason that you throw the game away..


ps. as i said you still try to acuse me that i made a secret alliance .

[garcimud]

Bye bye

2014-06-13 10:37:55 - NongTang: I will believe that you give up whenever you are kicked from the game
2014-06-13 13:32:12 - garcimud: you play against neutral player
2014-06-13 13:32:38 - garcimud: now
2014-06-13 15:54:25 - garcimud: why would i return to play when i dont have chance to win this game?


Oh i forgot this..
this is the real reason that you throw the game away..


ps. as i said you still try to acuse me that i made a secret alliance .

[j1mathman]

So you are admit youve been attacking me because of my big mouth (just for fun). Im prety sure that kind of atrategy is against the rule.

Check the rules on this page
As unwriten rules
http://www.conquerclub.com/public.php?mode=rules

I didnt cut anything. What are you talking about? If you didnt make secret alliance. Why did you give this game to blue by not attacking him AT ALL wheb it was obvious he will win this game?

i told you many many times. i just don't like a big mouth like you.
or i don't have the rights to decide my way???
at least i didn't break anyrules.

It isn't a violation of unwritten rules to attack someone because they are annoying or whatever in chat. It's a commonly cited thing here, does not imply secret alliance or throwing.

[iAmCaffeine]

Lock 'er down!