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suspected multi : Eleander - Darkgoth666 [cleared]

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suspected multi : Eleander - Darkgoth666 [cleared]

Postby Han Solo on Thu Nov 22, 2007 6:36 pm

These are suspected Multis or Secret Alliance

Suspect users: Eleander - Darkgoth666

Game number: http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=1169638

Comments:

I am now alone in front of "these 2 guys"(?). The last 2 moves Darkgoth666 made can't be explained as "newbie" move. Eleander (blue) was clearly overwhelming us,.... and yellow kept helping him and attacking me, lol :-)

->> Then i had some doubts & i remembered this phrase of another player, some days ago :

2007-11-18 23:14:41 - FaceyKC: blue and yellow are being awfully kind to each other...

Looking deeper :

->> "Darkgoth666" is in 8 of the total 20 games played by Eleander.

-->> These accounts are from Canada and the registration dates are very close.

I would be extremely surprised if everything was normal here.

This is the 1st time i see such an obvious cheat and the 1st time i report any here.

Regards,

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Re: suspected multi : Eleander - Darkgoth666 [pending]

Postby Han Solo on Tue Nov 27, 2007 11:06 am

Dear Hunters,

Still no reaction ? after 5 days this one was on second page...

Unfortunately, in the last couple of hours i just faced obvious secret alliances in 2 different games (identified as : a player systematically attacks me while a third player is MUCH stronger and about winning the game).

http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?gam ... 1#map-cell

http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?gam ... 7#map-cell

I won't fill "the form" in, give names, etc. Why would I ? The one below has no follow-up :roll: :roll: :roll:

As a personal comment, i find it disappointing that cheating (any form of cheating) relates to at least 10% of the games when you jump in any game with unknown opponents.

In many individual games, you find players that are also team mates in V2 or V3, and that play "in favor of their mate", first killing the others before ending on an ensured victory for one of them.

Disappointing, frustrating. And i paid my premium for 3 years. Sigh.

Maybe the guys creating multis do that for a good reason ? Counter-attack ?

Han Solo


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Han Solo wrote:These are suspected Multis or Secret Alliance

Suspect users: Eleander - Darkgoth666

Game number: http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=1169638

Comments:

I am now alone in front of "these 2 guys"(?). The last 2 moves Darkgoth666 made can't be explained as "newbie" move. Eleander (blue) was clearly overwhelming us,.... and yellow kept helping him and attacking me, lol :-)

->> Then i had some doubts & i remembered this phrase of another player, some days ago :

2007-11-18 23:14:41 - FaceyKC: blue and yellow are being awfully kind to each other...

Looking deeper :

->> "Darkgoth666" is in 8 of the total 20 games played by Eleander.

-->> These accounts are from Canada and the registration dates are very close.

I would be extremely surprised if everything was normal here.

This is the 1st time i see such an obvious cheat and the 1st time i report any here.

Regards,

Han Solo
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Postby Shrinky on Tue Nov 27, 2007 11:11 am

Have you considered the fact that they could be friends?
Although it's wrong if one person helps the other, it has happened many times before with friends....

Edit: I'm referring to your first post
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Postby Han Solo on Tue Nov 27, 2007 11:26 am

Shrinky wrote:Have you considered the fact that they could be friends?
Although it's wrong if one person helps the other, it has happened many times before with friends....

Edit: I'm referring to your first post


Are you suggesting me to ask some friends and my kids to register here to help me winning games ???

OK. I'll think about it. Thanks for the good idea.
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Postby king achilles on Tue Nov 27, 2007 8:48 pm

I apologize if it took some time and your patience to come with the verdict for this case. Evidence depends sometimes to what the suspects will do.

Eleander and darkgoth666 are cleared of being multis with each other. They may be both from the same countries but they do not show enough information that makes them a multi account with one another. As for the secret alliance, if you think that they had one, then leave a feedback about it supported with facts from the game. This report is noted.

It is pretty easy to accuse anyone of cheating especially when we do not understand a certain 'move' made a player. In some cases, it is pretty hard to prove an accusation. It may take time to come up with a verdict as not everything is back and white but we do what we can to solve your reports as soon as possible. If you have further reports about cheating, we will investigate it for you, but will mark it pending if there is not enough evidence to come up with a final verdict. Rest assure it will not be ignored, preferably that you fill up the proper form when you report a case.
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