babylay[Busted], yaryarlay, madfighter, Astraea [Cleared]

[khc]

These are suspected Multis/Secret Alliance (delete the one they are not)

Suspect users: yaryarlay, babylay +++ madfighter, Astraea

Game number: 604020

Comments:

1. they both created accounts within a week of each other
2. they have the same names
3. they both report malaysia as their country
4. they only attack me
5. they only place 1 unit to fortify their adjacent territories, but place up to 6. on territories adjacent to mine
7. only one of them talks and he only talks to me by asking when i will play, not the other player



A. Yaryarlay has played 8 games with madfighter, babylay, astrea: all MALAYSIA accounts, all created at the same time as his.
B. He also happens to win them all for a 7/8 record...
C. The other accounts... funny thing they all have loss records since they all just play him or him and one other public who happends to lose?

[debra79]

Very sus, but they've only got one game going against each other at the moment.
How can you tell they're logging in and out, let alone whether they're doing it on the same computer?
2007-07-06 15:38:24 - yaryarlay gets a card
2007-07-06 16:14:59 - babylay receives 2 armies for holding XXXX
It takes less time than this to log out and back in again.
And why did you create a second thread about this?

[khc]

1. I didn't mean to post 2 postings. I realized my mistake only after reading the forum rules a second time. I didn't follow the posting guidelines in my first posting.
2. By logging in and out, I mean the time lapse between playing - circumstantial evidence, but the lapse in time between plays in different players varies because of circumstances and etc...
3. Very sus? Understandably, I understand that yo don't want to jump to conclusions, but I believe that I have provided a very strong circumstantial case. The player names by themselves raise suspicion, but combined with the other points I think it goes beyond mere suspicion to confirmation. Otherwise I do not know what else to report.

[debra79]

It's great that you're a new player and already on the lookout for sus players, I'm not having a go at you
You can go to your other thread and click the little x in your first post and delete the thread.
I can't outright say they are the same person, 'cause I don't have the multi hunters' magic tools for determining if they are
I still don't understand what you mean about the time lapse. There was almost an hour between their turns. Or do you mean the time it takes to actually start and finish their turn? I must admit it does take them an inordinately long time to finish their turn. I usually take 10 minutes at the very most.

[khc]

1. I did as you suggested; I deleted the first string.
2. Sorry about the confusion regarding logging in and out; i mean the inordinate amount of time which you correctly detailed.
3. Anyhoot, I don't think you have anything against me. I'm just a bit confused as to what qualifies as abuse because, not to sound hyperbolic, if this isn't a pretty clear case of cheating, I'm unsure what is.
4. I almost found it funny when I realized what the cheater was doing because of how poorly he was doing it. His choice of names and the detailing of his profile aside, the way he played was so obvious that I thought it was funny.
5. Anyhoot, again my initial point is if (a) the names are basically the same, (b) the date of creation are basically the same, (c) the profiles are the same, (d) if they play as if they don't see each other by fortifying only their bases against me, (e) only communicate to me, (f) play as if they are on the same computer... well basically if this isn't enough evidence for cheating, I really don't understand what the point of reporting suspect behavior is because I don't know how much more suspect his behavior can become without him literally screaming "look at me"...

[debra79]

I think it's more than enough evidence, but like I said, I don't get the final say You just have to wait until a mod sees it and checks it out - could be days, could be hours it depends on the time they have and the evidence they discover. Once they have come to a decision the title of the thread will end in either [Busted] or [Cleared] and a post will be made by them.
Unfortunately though, their account bans don't take effect until after their active games have finished, so you'll still have to play out the game with them

[khc]

LOL...

Please check yaryarlay's record.. He has 8 games with 7 wins against (A) ALL MALAYSIA accounts that were created at the same time, (B) all the other MALAYSIA accounts lose all their games, (C) watch how the accounts in multi games attack only the third non-Malaysian, non-new, real accounts...

[khc]

Here's his explanation for why his accounts all come from Malaysia and why they all lose to him and why they take time between turns. Lol... after all when you are from the same office it takes time to log on and off between accounts with only one computer. However, why do all his coworkers lose to him all the time and why do they never attack him or fear attack from him... LOL!!!



2007-07-09 03:03:54 - yaryarlay: you totally wrong ... we all are friend in our office. we like this game a lot. don't you know ?

2007-07-09 03:04:55 - yaryarlay: deleting and undeleting is no problem for me... coz my mind have only one things ,that is to playing .... nothing special .. i don't care out of reason.

[yaryarlay]

khc .. haha it is not malaysia . it is Myanmar, you can fight with me anytime.

LOL...

Please check yaryarlay's record.. He has 8 games with 7 wins against (A) ALL MALAYSIA accounts that were created at the same time, (B) all the other MALAYSIA accounts lose all their games, (C) watch how the accounts in multi games attack only the third non-Malaysian, non-new, real accounts...

[Fireside Poet]

Suspects: yaryarlay, babylay +++ madfighter, Astraea
Verdict: yaryarlay, madfighter, Astraea cleared of multiple accounts. babylay busted for multiple accounts along with boagdin, aprilgirl, and jame