[OFFICIAL] Charle's Fun Mafia - "Game On" Day 3

[Kingm]

Wow, this sucks, now we are kind of fucked.
When EW voted himself, I knew that we wore wrong, I also do believe LC is town, like he just got it wrong, nobody is scum and fight so hard to get someone lynched, we need to kill a scum today, and Sonic is 100000% scum, he claimed town doc.

Vote SoN!c

A) I never claimed town doc. That's a lie

B) Your arriving very fast in the thread? All game long it was "im out of energy, no time to read....". But start of D3 : BOOM?

C) Let's say im scum for sake of arguments. How stupid would i be to kill the doc?

Also there is just 1 kill. But Kingm does not find that strange? Like he knows?


Vote Kingm (DDS)

SoN!c, you know me and my energy, thats how I am, either I'm like 200% dedicated or 0%, never something in between.
But I see I need to slow down, I just jumped in thinking I had solved it, or was 10000% sure you wore scum, I still think it, but I now I actually have to read at least all of D2, and I really do not want to, because is it not like 25 freaking pages, OH MY DAYS, oh well.

In the meantime, Unvote SoN!c

[chanakam2020]

I did learn something Chana, yes thankyou

You are not telling us what you learned ?
I think we can make better decisions if we know more and more info.

[chanakam2020]

Wow, this sucks, now we are kind of fucked.
When EW voted himself, I knew that we wore wrong, I also do believe LC is town, like he just got it wrong, nobody is scum and fight so hard to get someone lynched, we need to kill a scum today, and Sonic is 100000% scum, he claimed town doc.

Vote SoN!c

A) I never claimed town doc. That's a lie

B) Your arriving very fast in the thread? All game long it was "im out of energy, no time to read....". But start of D3 : BOOM?

C) Let's say im scum for sake of arguments. How stupid would i be to kill the doc?

Also there is just 1 kill. But Kingm does not find that strange? Like he knows?


Vote Kingm (DDS)

mm ?
Who are you then?
You calimed a town power role rihgt ?
And all this time I was thinking you and Ragian both claimed Doc role.
What did I miss ?
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[halrob64]

I don't recall Sonic claiming a power role, I remember EW mudding the waters between Ragian and Sonic, I am still puzzled why two people in strong town positions would want to lynch themselves, maybe I'm missing something

[Kingm]

C) Let's say im scum for sake of arguments. How stupid would i be to kill the doc?

Also there is just 1 kill. But Kingm does not find that strange? Like he knows?

Fu*k me, you are good mate, hmm.
I do not think you killed Ragian, that would like you said be very very stupid of you.
And frick, I thought there was 2 night kills, because of the EW lynch, yeah I tend to just write out my thoughts before I read and think, lol.

But correct me if I'm wrong, but EW (Tracker) followed you D1, and said you visited Halrob, what kind of roll are you claiming then, like there is not many town power roles left?
You just have to be scum right? But if so what kind of scum, hmm..

And wtf happend to the the 2nd kill, we do not have a JK longer, town doc was killed now, but he was a doc and not a bodyguard, hmm I'm guessing this means that the 3P and Mafia both went for ragian.

But that does not makes sense either.

[Kingm]

I did learn something Chana, yes thankyou

You are not telling us what you learned ?
I think we can make better decisions if we know more and more info.

100% agree

[halrob64]

Who can make better decisions Chanakam? Give me some scenarios on how any revelations effect the game.
why don't you state categorically what your role is? That will help us make decisions as well wouldn't it?

[chanakam2020]

C) Let's say im scum for sake of arguments. How stupid would i be to kill the doc?

Also there is just 1 kill. But Kingm does not find that strange? Like he knows?

Fu*k me, you are good mate, hmm.
I do not think you killed Ragian, that would like you said be very very stupid of you.
And frick, I thought there was 2 night kills, because of the EW lynch, yeah I tend to just write out my thoughts before I read and think, lol.

But correct me if I'm wrong, but EW (Tracker) followed you D1, and said you visited Halrob, what kind of roll are you claiming then, like there is not many town power roles left?
You just have to be scum right? But if so what kind of scum, hmm..

And wtf happend to the the 2nd kill, we do not have a JK longer, town doc was killed now, but he was a doc and not a bodyguard, hmm I'm guessing this means that the 3P and Mafia both went for ragian.

But that does not makes sense either.

It is possible to Doctor protect the 2nd kill target before he die.
Am I correct ?

[halrob64]

Sorry Chan, that was mean't for Kingm, how might that information be used then Kingm? Who would benefit?

[SoN!c]

C) Let's say im scum for sake of arguments. How stupid would i be to kill the doc?

Also there is just 1 kill. But Kingm does not find that strange? Like he knows?

Fu*k me, you are good mate, hmm.
I do not think you killed Ragian, that would like you said be very very stupid of you.
And frick, I thought there was 2 night kills, because of the EW lynch, yeah I tend to just write out my thoughts before I read and think, lol.

But correct me if I'm wrong, but EW (Tracker) followed you D1, and said you visited Halrob, what kind of roll are you claiming then, like there is not many town power roles left?
You just have to be scum right? But if so what kind of scum, hmm..

And wtf happend to the the 2nd kill, we do not have a JK longer, town doc was killed now, but he was a doc and not a bodyguard, hmm I'm guessing this means that the 3P and Mafia both went for ragian.

But that does not makes sense either.

Ragian announced he was going to self target. If the SK believed Ragian to be town doc he would also believe Ragian was gonna self protect. No way the SK would go for Ragian then. And me, as mafia and mafia going for Ragian N2, would just be stupid. So im not mafia and mafia killed Ragian.

So exactly this: "that does not makes sense either"

Im sure if we think we can figure it out. Perhaps there is no SK, just mafia with 2 nightkills on N1 (like a 1 shot extra PR kill ability). Or perhaps Ragian protected somebody else instead of self target, it's a possibility we can't rule out. So let's think about it.

I got the Town Symbiotic role from Charle

As symbiotic i had to choose a player during N1. (not choosing would result in a mod kill). For the rest of the game, as long as the Symbiotic (me) is alive, if the player i chose would be killed, the Symbiotic (me) dies instead.

Also if the player i chose doesn't share town alignment with the me, investigative abilities targeting either of us will fail. I chose our cop N1. If Halrob is our cop (no counterclaim) it's the best choice. The downside is, If Halrob is scum any investigative action by town will fail.. But i figured if Halrob is not the real cop and somebody else is the real cop would know that without having to investigate Halrob anyways. And D2 passed without counterclaim so looks like i made the right choice.

Let's vote whoever Halrob chooses to vote and go from there. We have to trust Halrob to be our cop. If there is a counterclaim : NOW IS THE TIME!! or otherwise we follow Halrob

[halrob64]

Thats a good post Kingm, I don't want to reveal my information at this stage, lets tease out some more discussions and hear from everyone first. I will assume we are allies unless we prove to each other we are not

[Kingm]

C) Let's say im scum for sake of arguments. How stupid would i be to kill the doc?

Also there is just 1 kill. But Kingm does not find that strange? Like he knows?

Fu*k me, you are good mate, hmm.
I do not think you killed Ragian, that would like you said be very very stupid of you.
And frick, I thought there was 2 night kills, because of the EW lynch, yeah I tend to just write out my thoughts before I read and think, lol.

But correct me if I'm wrong, but EW (Tracker) followed you D1, and said you visited Halrob, what kind of roll are you claiming then, like there is not many town power roles left?
You just have to be scum right? But if so what kind of scum, hmm..

And wtf happend to the the 2nd kill, we do not have a JK longer, town doc was killed now, but he was a doc and not a bodyguard, hmm I'm guessing this means that the 3P and Mafia both went for ragian.

But that does not makes sense either.

Ragian announced he was going to self target. If the SK believed Ragian to be town doc he would also believe Ragian was gonna self protect. No way the SK would go for Ragian then. And me, as mafia and mafia going for Ragian N2, would just be stupid. So im not mafia and mafia killed Ragian.

So exactly this: "that does not makes sense either"

Im sure if we think we can figure it out. Perhaps there is no SK, just mafia with 2 nightkills on N1 (like a 1 shot extra PR kill ability). Or perhaps Ragian protected somebody else instead of self target, it's a possibility we can't rule out. So let's think about it.

I got the Town Symbiotic role from Charle

As symbiotic i had to choose a player during N1. (not choosing would result in a mod kill). For the rest of the game, as long as the Symbiotic (me) is alive, if the player i chose would be killed, the Symbiotic (me) dies instead.

Also if the player i chose doesn't share town alignment with the me, investigative abilities targeting either of us will fail. I chose our cop N1. If Halrob is our cop (no counterclaim) it's the best choice. The downside is, If Halrob is scum any investigative action by town will fail.. But i figured if Halrob is not the real cop and somebody else is the real cop would know that without having to investigate Halrob anyways. And D2 passed without counterclaim so looks like i made the right choice.

Let's vote whoever Halrob chooses to vote and go from there. We have to trust Halrob to be our cop. If there is a counterclaim : NOW IS THE TIME!! or otherwise we follow Halrob

Jesus christ mate, you are soooooo gooooood at this game, its actually scary.

I had to look up the role to find it. ( https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Symbiotic )
Is this why you used 30min to find a role to claim that would fit perfect, hmmm this smell really really bad.
But the day is long, I need to think a bit more.

[Kingm]

Thats a good post Kingm, I don't want to reveal my information at this stage, lets tease out some more discussions and hear from everyone first. I will assume we are allies unless we prove to each other we are not

Ahh so you wanted to know what I was, I claimed D2 when I was like L2 or something, I'm a Vanilla Town, so not much I can give of info, just logic really.

[SoN!c]

Is this why you used 30min to find a role to claim that would fit perfect,
But the day is long, I need to think a bit more.

I took game turns in those 30 mins too, you can check them

2025-09-22 10:33:09 - SoN!c deployed 26 troops on Larissa

on beta site too

My vote stays on you, you play your role as "Doubting Thomas" way too good! You even got me doubting now

[Kingm]

First of all, @Charle, could you please add player roles to the dead players in the playerlist post on the opening post?

I have made a spreadsheet, to help myself solve this freaking Einsteins Riddle, because it freaking feels a bit like one of those.
I'm not sure I'm allowed to link to that spreadsheet, or if I can link a picture?

But anyhow, we have 3 dead town power roles, JK, Tracker and Doc.
We have claims from a cop and a Symbiotic, that makes 5 power roles.

I have started to re-read the thread now, but this will probably take me many many hours, but maybe you guys that have been active, remember more claims by people?

I will continue with this post later, I just have to a bit more research in this thread, and also in previous games, but to me this sounds about right, 9 towns in a 13p game, and the split then would be 5 power 4 vanilla, but damn that Symbiotic role is not really a power role IMHO.

Anyhow maybe someone have some answers about earlier claims?

[Ragian]

Suck it!

Go town!

[chanakam2020]

C) Let's say im scum for sake of arguments. How stupid would i be to kill the doc?

Also there is just 1 kill. But Kingm does not find that strange? Like he knows?

Fu*k me, you are good mate, hmm.
I do not think you killed Ragian, that would like you said be very very stupid of you.
And frick, I thought there was 2 night kills, because of the EW lynch, yeah I tend to just write out my thoughts before I read and think, lol.

But correct me if I'm wrong, but EW (Tracker) followed you D1, and said you visited Halrob, what kind of roll are you claiming then, like there is not many town power roles left?
You just have to be scum right? But if so what kind of scum, hmm..

And wtf happend to the the 2nd kill, we do not have a JK longer, town doc was killed now, but he was a doc and not a bodyguard, hmm I'm guessing this means that the 3P and Mafia both went for ragian.

But that does not makes sense either.

Ragian announced he was going to self target. If the SK believed Ragian to be town doc he would also believe Ragian was gonna self protect. No way the SK would go for Ragian then. And me, as mafia and mafia going for Ragian N2, would just be stupid. So im not mafia and mafia killed Ragian.

So exactly this: "that does not makes sense either"

Im sure if we think we can figure it out. Perhaps there is no SK, just mafia with 2 nightkills on N1 (like a 1 shot extra PR kill ability). Or perhaps Ragian protected somebody else instead of self target, it's a possibility we can't rule out. So let's think about it.

I got the Town Symbiotic role from Charle

As symbiotic i had to choose a player during N1. (not choosing would result in a mod kill). For the rest of the game, as long as the Symbiotic (me) is alive, if the player i chose would be killed, the Symbiotic (me) dies instead.

Also if the player i chose doesn't share town alignment with the me, investigative abilities targeting either of us will fail. I chose our cop N1. If Halrob is our cop (no counterclaim) it's the best choice. The downside is, If Halrob is scum any investigative action by town will fail.. But i figured if Halrob is not the real cop and somebody else is the real cop would know that without having to investigate Halrob anyways. And D2 passed without counterclaim so looks like i made the right choice.

Let's vote whoever Halrob chooses to vote and go from there. We have to trust Halrob to be our cop. If there is a counterclaim : NOW IS THE TIME!! or otherwise we follow Halrob

So you are alive means the ones who you visited was not targetted to kill by scums ?
Is that how that role work ?
Am I correct ?
If so how this role diifferent from bodyguard ?

[chanakam2020]

Ragian died yesterday night means he did not self protected him.
So he protected some one else who was Scums 2nd target.
Could it be the case that there is no 2nd death ?
.
Apart from my above suggestion +
and As some one stated before
Both scums & Serial Killer targetted Ragian scenario,

Any other possibilities for explain we survived night with only one death ?
.

[halrob64]

Maybe my police patrols thwarted the second attempt, my men don't spend all their time eating doughnuts chan

[halrob64]

or maybe you need to talk to your mafia chums and get the skinny

[Kingm]

or maybe you need to talk to your mafia chums and get the skinny

SOOOOOOOOOOOOO whats the teeeea?
Chana = scum?

[chanakam2020]

or maybe you need to talk to your mafia chums and get the skinny

SOOOOOOOOOOOOO whats the teeeea?
Chana = scum?

Or

Maybe my police patrols thwarted the second attempt, my men don't spend all their time eating doughnuts chan

There is another COP in patrols

Or Hal found his Higher authority officer who blocked him N1 ?
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