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Continent bonus generator

PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 10:44 pm
by gimil
does anyone have a link to the spreadsheet that you can use to constructe continent bonuses? and could it possibly be added to the map making tools thread?

feel free to delete this once finished***

PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 12:40 am
by Herakilla
in my opinion each continenets bonus has largely to do with how the map is set up

there could be guidlines like

if it has 2 borders and 5 or less territories=2

and things like that.

but each map is different and may require different bonuses for the VERY different continents from map to map

Re: Continent bonus generator

PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 12:42 am
by cairnswk
gimil wrote:does anyone have a link to the spreadsheet that you can use to constructe continent bonuses? and could it possibly be added to the map making tools thread?

feel free to delete this once finished***


Gimil

That tool is now in the Map Making Tools. It is only to be used to determine start bonuses for continents as they may vary according to the map and other conditions of play.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 3:19 am
by Wisse
Herakilla wrote:in my opinion each continenets bonus has largely to do with how the map is set up

there could be guidlines like

if it has 2 borders and 5 or less territories=2

and things like that.

but each map is different and may require different bonuses for the VERY different continents from map to map

i totaly agree with you

also you could make the bonuses big or low (but still diference between them)

Re: Continent bonus generator

PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 3:39 am
by WidowMakers
cairnswk wrote:That tool is now in the Map Making Tools. It is only to be used to determine start bonuses for continents as they may vary according to the map and other conditions of play.
This is a better file. The one in the tools thread does not explain how to use it and is hard to read.

http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/6/15/ ... S_CALC.xls

Re: Continent bonus generator

PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 3:45 am
by cairnswk
WidowMakers wrote:
cairnswk wrote:That tool is now in the Map Making Tools. It is only to be used to determine start bonuses for continents as they may vary according to the map and other conditions of play.
This is a better file. The one in the tools thread does not explain how to use it and is hard to read.

http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/6/15/ ... S_CALC.xls


Changed it in map making tools, WM. Thanks

PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 3:46 am
by onbekende
Thats sorta my formula

I always see the continent itself too, and its location, at the side of the map is a big difference then in the middle of all the mayham

Re: Continent bonus generator

PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 3:54 am
by Telvannia
cairnswk wrote:
WidowMakers wrote:
cairnswk wrote:That tool is now in the Map Making Tools. It is only to be used to determine start bonuses for continents as they may vary according to the map and other conditions of play.
This is a better file. The one in the tools thread does not explain how to use it and is hard to read.

http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/6/15/ ... S_CALC.xls


Changed it in map making tools, WM. Thanks


The link does not work for me :lol:

great improvement :roll:

Re: Continent bonus generator

PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 4:21 am
by cairnswk
Telvannia wrote:
The link does not work for me :lol:

great improvement :roll:


That concerns me telvannia...what browser are you using.
I use IE7 and have no problems with WM's link opening it in a brwoser or saving as targe file and opeing in excel .
please advise...although i'm not sure if i can do anything.

Re: Continent bonus generator

PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 4:23 am
by Wisse
cairnswk wrote:
Telvannia wrote:
The link does not work for me :lol:

great improvement :roll:


That concerns me telvannia...what browser are you using.
I use IE7 and have no problems with WM's link opening it in a brwoser or saving as targe file and opeing in excel .
please advise...although i'm not sure if i can do anything.

i am using safari (for mac) and can download it too
but i think i maybe know what is the problem, be sure to have the option pop up windows allowed


EDIT: now it says: "Link does not exist" its deleted or something

Re: Continent bonus generator

PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 4:30 am
by Telvannia
Wisse wrote:
cairnswk wrote:
Telvannia wrote:
The link does not work for me :lol:

great improvement :roll:


That concerns me telvannia...what browser are you using.
I use IE7 and have no problems with WM's link opening it in a brwoser or saving as targe file and opeing in excel .
please advise...although i'm not sure if i can do anything.

i am using safari (for mac) and can download it too
but i think i maybe know what is the problem, be sure to have the option pop up windows allowed


EDIT: now it says: "Link does not exist" its deleted or something


i use firefox, and im getting the same error as wisse,

the old link worked for me, and i still have a copy of the old excel file on my computer so it is not so important that i get this link to work.

Re: Continent bonus generator

PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 4:38 am
by cairnswk
Telvannia wrote:the old link worked for me, and i still have a copy of the old excel file on my computer so it is not so important that i get this link to work.

If there are any further reports i'll put the old link back up.
Please advise me if so.

Re: Continent bonus generator

PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 4:44 am
by Wisse
cairnswk wrote:
Telvannia wrote:the old link worked for me, and i still have a copy of the old excel file on my computer so it is not so important that i get this link to work.

If there are any further reports i'll put the old link back up.
Please advise me if so.


i think the problem is IE,
its because there were rules about what a browser had to do and microsoft did not follow those rules, one example: if you forget to write something in a html file and put it up on firefox/safari it doesn't work as you wished, then if you put it up in IE the browser thinks what the thing could be (so he guesses what there should be) wich is why some internet sites (or other things) work good on IE and not on other browsers and then they blame the other browsers,

so:
just turn the link back to the old link :P

Re: Continent bonus generator

PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 4:57 am
by cairnswk
Wisse wrote:so:
just turn the link back to the old link :P


Wisse...i put my file there as well...can you check to see if it works for you...and you too telvannia.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 5:00 am
by Gnome
the link works for me...Firefox and IE

PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 5:10 am
by cairnswk
Gnome wrote:the link works for me...Firefox and IE


Thanks Gnome. :)

Re: Continent bonus generator

PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 5:12 am
by Telvannia
cairnswk wrote:
Wisse wrote:so:
just turn the link back to the old link :P


Wisse...i put my file there as well...can you check to see if it works for you...and you too telvannia.


yeah it works for me now.

thanks

PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 5:23 am
by Wisse
the link after widowmakers doesn't work, but after cairns it does

Re: Continent bonus generator

PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 5:24 am
by cairnswk
Telvannia wrote:
cairnswk wrote:
Wisse wrote:so:
just turn the link back to the old link :P


Wisse...i put my file there as well...can you check to see if it works for you...and you too telvannia.


yeah it works for me now.

thanks


Thanks telvannia.
I am just uploading a better file with instructions on it.
Can you check this one please.

Re: Continent bonus generator

PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 5:41 am
by Telvannia
cairnswk wrote:
Telvannia wrote:
cairnswk wrote:
Wisse wrote:so:
just turn the link back to the old link :P


Wisse...i put my file there as well...can you check to see if it works for you...and you too telvannia.


yeah it works for me now.

thanks


Thanks telvannia.
I am just uploading a better file with instructions on it.
Can you check this one please.


Yes it works fine for me, and i fine the instruction nice and easy to follow and it is generally a good tool for helping production of maps.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 5:45 am
by Wisse
though yours works perfect, widowmakers still doesn't

PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 7:09 am
by MarVal
Wisse wrote:though yours works perfect, widowmakers still doesn't

I just download the Bonus geneartor from the link on Map Making Tools - Added: Continent Bonus Generator S/Sheet of widowmakers.
The direct link to the Bonus Generator is:

http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/6/15/ ... S_CALC.xls

So it does work, but why didn't it work by you, Wisse?

Grtz
MarVal

PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 7:49 am
by Marvaddin
Bonuses generator?? Lol, map makers dont need to think.

Just tried Cairns generator to classic map, it says NA and Europe should have a bonus of 4 instead 5, lol. Also tried Philippines map, it gave me 3 different bonuses. And it considers how many territories, borders, attacking routes, etc.

In fact, I have a different mental formula... If the continent is designed with like half of territories being border ones, the bonus is the number of borders. If the number of border is very high, then the bonus will change according to number of countries. Just this 8)

Attack routes and number of neighbour continents, I have learned during my map making experience, hardly make a difference to the bonus.

Anyway, good tools to begginers :)

PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 8:02 am
by Wisse
MarVal wrote:
Wisse wrote:though yours works perfect, widowmakers still doesn't

I just download the Bonus geneartor from the link on Map Making Tools - Added: Continent Bonus Generator S/Sheet of widowmakers.
The direct link to the Bonus Generator is:

http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/6/15/ ... S_CALC.xls

So it does work, but why didn't it work by you, Wisse?

Grtz
MarVal


the link you give me works


also marvaddin, i suggest you to read the topic before commenting,

PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 8:17 am
by MarVal
Wisse wrote:also marvaddin, i suggest you to read the topic before commenting,

I agree!

Grtz
MarVal